North American Rapid Chess Online

I guess I need to decide whether to reapply for this, there’s about a week until deadline for entries and they only have seven showing (six if mine isn’t included).
Charles Roberson is a nice bloke, IMO.

Chris Whittington wrote:

I guess I need to decide whether to reapply for this, there’s about a week until deadline for entries and they only have seven showing (six if mine isn’t included). Charles Roberson is a nice bloke, IMO.

Charles is okay, a VII person also

I would play if I were you, don't let them take away the fun, but that's just me.

Do you ever enter these events?

Nope.

I guess the full stop at the end of that negative is not because you’re not UCI.

Thorsten, Charles Roberson has asked ProDeo to enter, are you willing to participate and operate?

I don't want to post over there any longer.

Admin wrote:

Thorsten, Charles Roberson has asked ProDeo to enter, are you willing to participate and operate?

I don't want to post over there any longer.

Giving this a kick for Thorsten to notice ....,

Re not posting, me neither. Best while to deal with that site while it’s in the hands of a psychopath, is logout, and just read it as a guest, then you’re not tempted to post into the dysfunctionality. Perfect.

Same counts for Henk.

BTW Chris, on the ProDeo 3.0 page I offer the 30 million EPD's analyzed with SF12 (depth=16) used to create the USB book for download, only positions <= 10 moves. Good for opening training?

I guess they are playing on a chess server via something I have no clue about.
Also my fastest machine is an old 6 core Xeon 5690 or , if 1 core counts, an i7 of 7th generation.
Ed if you consider that they use machines there with 24-64 cores on machines cost 5000 euro, I would say the chances to produce senseful data if you have only 1 core for prodeo and not the fastest MHz per core are not that big.
Also one HAS to know about the server they play and how to operate.

This is nothing for me.
I prefer watching my arena tournaments autoplay on my several computers.

Maybe peter is Interested. I remember he once operated crafty.
I do never go on chess servers.

I often read CSS forum and these server guys are IMO quite irritating people.
They all need always the fastest hardware.
Some of them have 24-64 cores and also 2-3 Nvidia cards ranging from 2070 super to much more expensive ones.
And then they sit there the whole day trying to beat other engines.

That’s insane.

For developing engines you need same cpus for all engines, and many many games and many opponents.

One of the reasons I do nearly Sero computerchess anymore with PCs is that the Engines Are mainly playing extremely boring chess.

They come even on my mobile phone amazingly deep and no human beeing has a chance,
but the games are very boring.

I prefer watching the old programs, tiger, tal, prodeo, mchess, hiarcs.

The new engines play like stockfish.
They reach the depths stockfish does, they play the same boring chess.

Recently I bought Komodo 14 and dragon. But to be honest:
The program that gives me the most pleasure in the moment is LC0.
I do have a 2070 in the Xeon and they fight Really interesting games on that machine,

LC0 is really a different kind of engine,

A different paradigm .

Before anybody believed stockfish is god.
And suddenly stockfish was an apprentice.

How many NPS is prodeo 3 doing on your machines, guys ?
(It runs on only one core, so we can pretty easily relate the NPS).’

Mclane wrote:

I guess they are playing on a chess server via something I have no clue about.
Also my fastest machine is an old 6 core Xeon 5690 or , if 1 core counts, an i7 of 7th generation.
Ed if you consider that they use machines there with 24-64 cores on machines cost 5000 euro, I would say the chances to produce senseful data if you have only 1 core for prodeo and not the fastest MHz per core are not that big.
Also one HAS to know about the server they play and how to operate.

This is nothing for me.
I prefer watching my arena tournaments autoplay on my several computers.

Maybe peter is Interested. I remember he once operated crafty.
I do never go on chess servers.

I often read CSS forum and these server guys are IMO quite irritating people.
They all need always the fastest hardware.
Some of them have 24-64 cores and also 2-3 Nvidia cards ranging from 2070 super to much more expensive ones.
And then they sit there the whole day trying to beat other engines.

That’s insane.

For developing engines you need same cpus for all engines, and many many games and many opponents.

One of the reasons I do nearly Sero computerchess anymore with PCs is that the Engines Are mainly playing extremely boring chess.

They come even on my mobile phone amazingly deep and no human beeing has a chance,
but the games are very boring.

I prefer watching the old programs, tiger, tal, prodeo, mchess, hiarcs.

The new engines play like stockfish.
They reach the depths stockfish does, they play the same boring chess.

Recently I bought Komodo 14 and dragon. But to be honest:
The program that gives me the most pleasure in the moment is LC0.
I do have a 2070 in the Xeon and they fight Really interesting games on that machine,

LC0 is really a different kind of engine,

A different paradigm .

Before anybody believed stockfish is god.
And suddenly stockfish was an apprentice.

How many NPS is prodeo 3 doing on your machines, guys ?
(It runs on only one core, so we can pretty easily relate the NPS).’

Completely wrong about monkeys with big machines talking nps. The tournament is for programmers only, and they’ll be using their own machines. Some of them have lots of cores, and some not.
Setting up to run on the server is simple. You download the latest winboard, write a one line batch file (or cut and paste one), double-click and that’s it. You watch the game as it is played, and can chat to the other engine programmers.

Might be true but I never practiced this. And how would eds prodeo fight With 1 core against the others with 6-64 ?!

Mclane wrote:

Might be true but I never practiced this. And how would eds prodeo fight With 1 core against the others with 6-64 ?!

So what? My entry isn’t there in order to come first. Is just a fun tournament between engine programmers using their own hardware.
I hadn’t used winboard before either (for nightmare.nl), but in practice somebody told me what to do and hey presto it worked.
Fine, do whatever, but you are completely wrong and missing out a good opportunity for which you ought to have been extremely grateful for being asked.

Do you have the dates when the games have to be done ?

Saturday 28th I have to work until 10 pm. Sorry.