| | Stockfish Claiming Big Elo gains at VLTC and more threads. | |
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mwyoung

Posts : 814 Join date : 2020-11-25 Location : USA
 | Subject: Stockfish Claiming Big Elo gains at VLTC and more threads. Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:01 pm | |
| It would be great if Stockfish is fixing the thread and VLTC issues. We will test and see how it performs in real games. Author: Michael Chaly Date: Fri Feb 24 20:14:44 2023 +0100 Timestamp: 1677266084 Search tuning at very long time control This patch is a result of tuning session of approximately 100k games at 120+1.2. Biggest changes are in extensions, stat bonus and depth reduction for nodes without a tt move. Failed STC: https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/63f72c72e74a12625bcd7938LLR: -2.94 (-2.94,2.94) <0.00,2.00> Total: 13872 W: 3535 L: 3769 D: 6568 Elo -5.86 Ptnml(0-2): 56, 1621, 3800, 1419, 40 Close to neutral at LTC: https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/63f738f5e74a12625bcd7b8aElo: 0.80 +-1.2 (95%) LOS: 90.0% Total: 60000 W: 16213 L: 16074 D: 27713 Elo +0.80 Ptnml(0-2): 24, 5718, 18379, 5853, 26 nElo: 1.82 +-2.8 (95%) PairsRatio: 1.02 Passed 180+1.8 VLTC: https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/63f868f3e74a12625bcdb33eLLR: 2.95 (-2.94,2.94) <0.50,2.50> Total: 15864 W: 4449 L: 4202 D: 7213 Elo +5.41 Ptnml(0-2): 1, 1301, 5083, 1544, 3 Passed 60+0.6 8 threads SMP VLTC: https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/63f8a5d6e74a12625bcdbdb3LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) <0.50,2.50> Total: 6288 W: 1821 L: 1604 D: 2863 Elo +11.99 Ptnml(0-2): 0, 402, 2123, 619, 0 closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4406bench 4705194 | |
|  | | Chris Whittington Admin
Posts : 839 Join date : 2020-11-17 Location : France
 | Subject: Re: Stockfish Claiming Big Elo gains at VLTC and more threads. Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:13 pm | |
| - mwyoung wrote:
- It would be great if Stockfish is fixing the thread and VLTC issues.
We will test and see how it performs in real games.
Author: Michael Chaly Date: Fri Feb 24 20:14:44 2023 +0100 Timestamp: 1677266084
Search tuning at very long time control
This patch is a result of tuning session of approximately 100k games at 120+1.2. Biggest changes are in extensions, stat bonus and depth reduction for nodes without a tt move.
Failed STC: https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/63f72c72e74a12625bcd7938 LLR: -2.94 (-2.94,2.94) <0.00,2.00> Total: 13872 W: 3535 L: 3769 D: 6568 Elo -5.86 Ptnml(0-2): 56, 1621, 3800, 1419, 40
Close to neutral at LTC: https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/63f738f5e74a12625bcd7b8a Elo: 0.80 +-1.2 (95%) LOS: 90.0% Total: 60000 W: 16213 L: 16074 D: 27713 Elo +0.80 Ptnml(0-2): 24, 5718, 18379, 5853, 26 nElo: 1.82 +-2.8 (95%) PairsRatio: 1.02
Passed 180+1.8 VLTC: https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/63f868f3e74a12625bcdb33e LLR: 2.95 (-2.94,2.94) <0.50,2.50> Total: 15864 W: 4449 L: 4202 D: 7213 Elo +5.41 Ptnml(0-2): 1, 1301, 5083, 1544, 3
Passed 60+0.6 8 threads SMP VLTC: https://tests.stockfishchess.org/tests/view/63f8a5d6e74a12625bcdbdb3 LLR: 2.94 (-2.94,2.94) <0.50,2.50> Total: 6288 W: 1821 L: 1604 D: 2863 Elo +11.99 Ptnml(0-2): 0, 402, 2123, 619, 0
closes https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish/pull/4406
bench 4705194 My bad maths says 400 days of tuning tests. 4 days per 100 threads. Difficult for the rest of us to compete with that. | |
|  | | Admin Admin

Posts : 1851 Join date : 2020-11-17 Location : Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: Stockfish Claiming Big Elo gains at VLTC and more threads. Sat Feb 25, 2023 5:15 pm | |
| Became time they invested in LTC testing, after all they have the hardware for it.
Last edited by Admin on Sat Feb 25, 2023 7:05 pm; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : typo) | |
|  | | mwyoung

Posts : 814 Join date : 2020-11-25 Location : USA
 | Subject: Re: Stockfish Claiming Big Elo gains at VLTC and more threads. Sat Feb 25, 2023 6:55 pm | |
| Benchmark test, and scaling using the AMD 5900HX CPU, 8 core 16 threads. For Stockfish dev-20230224.
Setting and scores. [bench hash threads searchdepth]
bench 1024 1 30 518,702 ms. 2,377,606 nps.
bench 1024 2 30 406,518 ms. 4,920,720 nps.
bench 1024 4 30 364,875 ms. 9,699,987 nps.
bench 1024 8 30 361,231 ms. 18,020,574 nps.
bench 1024 16 30 444,305 ms. 24,462,641 nps.
Results.
Only a 44% speedup going from 1 to 8 cores. And again using more threads then cores is not recommended with Stockfish. Regardless of the huge speedup in nodes per second, 8 core solve time 361,231 ms. vs 16 thread solve time 444,305 ms. | |
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