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Mclane

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PostSubject: Heavy rain    Heavy rain  EmptySun Aug 13, 2023 12:39 am

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PostSubject: Re: Heavy rain    Heavy rain  EmptySun Aug 13, 2023 8:41 am

Mclane wrote:


That's some impressive flood water footage!

This is the first I've heard of it. I wonder why it wasn't more newsworthy at the time?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Doksuri_(2023)
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PostSubject: Re: Heavy rain    Heavy rain  EmptySun Aug 13, 2023 11:11 pm

China is one of the big REASONS the catastrophe is so huge. Any export nation is.

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PostSubject: Re: Heavy rain    Heavy rain  EmptySun Aug 13, 2023 11:13 pm

Germany has now a green party in the government and they try to change the politics and implement green energy. But those forces who were always against CHANGE are strong.
E.g. in germany the conservatives were 52 in governments.
Of course they dont want any change.

IMO this is cybernetic.
Any system tries to save the status quo.

Take an alcoholic. He does not want to be without alcohol.
Or a religious nuts. He want that his religion continues.

Germany could have been more modern but the conservatives beeing 52 years in charge of it blocked any progress. Merkel e.g. was 16 years in government and made all the contracts with putin although she knew putin was a dictator. Merkel spoke russian. Bit the problem was that she was never Regime opposition bit regime instead in GDR and when beeing chancellor of BRD she continued the old paradigm’s.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavy rain    Heavy rain  EmptyThu Jun 13, 2024 8:05 pm

The water france and spain is heating into clouds, germany gets it as rain.
France and spain will be in a few years like the sahara. And nobody can live there.
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PostSubject: Re: Heavy rain    Heavy rain  EmptySat Jun 15, 2024 2:50 pm

It is unfortunately getting more likely that the Western world at least is not going to achieve any of the Kyoto or later Paris goals, with everything we are doing now.

Just one example, the new Dutch government in formation wants to buikd no less than four new nuclear reactors. Not only at least the province of Groningen is not likely to comply with a new reactor in the Eemshaven, but it will also take at least fifteen years to build any of these once all the preparation would be finished and there is not enough room on our electricity net for even one new reactor because of the new Windparks that are also planned for instance, the electricity has to get on land somewhere, and in Zeeland because of this the congestion of a new reactor would only hinder. Even after fifteen years it is not clear we have upgraded the net enough.

I wrote this three months ago:

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Partijen die voorstemden, hadden op Nu.nl kunnen lezen dat één centrale al bijna onoverkomelijke problemen met plaats op het net oplevert. Windparkbouwers vragen zich nu al af of er genoeg vraag is voor nun stroom. Natuurlijk zouden we alle stroom die we maar kunnen opwekken, kunnen gebruiken om CO2 uit de lucht te halen, maar in dat geval betaalt de belastingbetaler alles. En er is nog geen goed plan of je die CO2 ook weer zou kunnen gebruiken bijvoorbeeld voor 3D printen van woningen. Ik noem maar wat. Bij de NOS hadden ze kunnen lezen dat ook voor grote gemalen straks enorme hoeveelheden stroom nodig zijn, als alle andere plannen om zeespiegelstijging te remmen mislopen. De kamer had beter kunnen kiezen voor het steunen van de NS. Ik heb geen cijfers maar volgens mij is dat tien keer beter voor de transitie dan 4 kerncentrales.
https://www.nu.nl/klimaat/6303390/ook-voor-twee-nieuwe-kerncentrales-is-niet-zomaar-ruimte-op-het-stroomnet.html

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Parties that voted in favor could have read on Nu.nl that one power plant already poses almost insurmountable problems with space on the network. Wind farm builders are already wondering whether there is enough demand for current electricity. Of course, we could use all the power we can generate to remove CO2 from the air, but in that case the taxpayer would pay for everything. And there is no good plan yet as to whether you could use that CO2 again, for example for 3D printing of homes. Just to name one possible way. They could have read at the NOS

https://nos.nl/artikel/2511405-dammen-dijken-of-meebewegen-zeespiegeltoekomst-loopt-in-drie-richtingen-uiteen

that large pumping stations will also soon require enormous amounts of electricity if all other plans to slow down sea level rise fail. Parliament would have been better off deciding to support the NS (The Dutch railroads). I don't have any figures, but I think that is ten times better for the transition than 4 nuclear power stations.
https://www.nu.nl/klimaat/6303390/ook-voor-twee-nieuwe-kerncentrales-is-niet-zomaar-ruimte-op-het-stroomnet.html



But that is just one example. We do not want to frighten the kids of course so we are forced to come up with a better plan. And as I wrote in the Politics forum, one thing I can not see us getting out of is that we actively have to sequester CO2 somehow (Like in the Apollo 13 accident, they only had some strings and simple equipment, but they managed) and we can not wait until 2050 to start. Well I wrote that above too in a way.


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PostSubject: Re: Heavy rain    Heavy rain  EmptySat Jun 15, 2024 2:56 pm

We cannot take back anything. The climate change is irreversible. We can only try to adapt the new changes.
And one thing is that some countries will suffer from problems theycannot stand.

France and spain will change into a desert.

Nobody can live there in a few years. Some will maybe try with air conditioning and other stuff but they will not have enough water anymore to drink or grow vegetables, feed cows or feed plants, trees or oranges or red wine or whatever. They will change into sahara soon.

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