CEGT - rating lists October 20th 2024 with Rebel EAS 2.0 and Extreme

Hi,
our actual rating lists are online and can be found under the attached links!

40 / 20:
New games: 2.200 with 21 different engines
Total:         1.872.063         games

NEW Engines
75 Rebel EAS 2.0 x64 1CPU 3504 +16 -16 1100 games (+8 to v. 16.3)
245 Rebel Extreme x64 1CPU 3364 +16 -16 1100 games (-140 to EAS 2.0)

UPDATES
375 Pedantic 2.1.0 x64 1CPU 3265 +16 -16 1200 games (+3)
383 Sirius 8.0 x64 1CPU 3253 +17 -17 1100 games (+1)

40 / 4
last update was October 18th 2024
New games: 33.900; total now: 3.968.630  games (3268 engines, +13)

NEW Engines
5 Stockfish 17.0NN x64 1CPU 3667 +10 -10 3200 games (+9 to v. 16.1)
252 Halogen 12.0NN x64 1CPU 3411 +9 -9 3100 games (+98 to v. 11.0)
127 Devre 6.0NN x64 1CPU 3497 +10 -10 2900 games (+180 to v. 5.0)
31 Caissa 1.20NN x64 1CPU 3592 +11 -11 2500 games (+18 to v. 1.18)
706 Princhess 0.19.0 x64 1CPU 3152 +10 -10 2400 games (+42 to v. 0.18.0)
92 Velvet 8.0.0NN x64 1CPU 3520 +11 -11 2400 games (+30 to v. 7.3.0)
61 Motor 0.7.0NN x64 3547 +11 -11 2300 games (+164 to v. 0.4.0)
662 Odonata 1.0.0NN x64 1CPU 3181 +10 -10 2300 games (+150 to v. 0.9.0)
109 Peacekeeper 3.0.1NN x64 1CPU 3507 +10 -10 2200 games (+87 to v. 2.4.0)
36 RubiChess 20240817NN x64 1CPU 3584 +11 -11 2100 games (+15 to v. 20240112)
53 Lizard 10.5NN x64 1CPU 3555 +12 -12 2000 games (+62 to v. 10.3)
794 Princhess 0.18.0 x64 1CPU 3110 +12 -12 2000 games (+59 to v. 0.17.0)
42 Clover 8.0NN x64 1CPU 3573 +12 -12 1800 games (+22 to v. 6.2)

we are testing:

Rebel EAS 2.0 x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3529 / 3100 games (-10 to 16.3 (3539))
Rebel Extreme x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3390 / 1600 games
Serendipity 0.4.1NN x64: ~~3395 / 1500 / NEW
Lynx 1.7.0 x64: ~2936 / 1500 games / +276 (!!) to v1.5.1 (last tested version, 2660)
Sirius 8.0 x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3281 / 2500 games => +161 to 7.0 (3120)
Lizard 11.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3555 / 2800 games => +2 to v. 10.5 (3553)
Puffin 4.0 x64 1CPU: ~2756 / 2200 / +147
Seawall 20240926 x64: ~2743 / 1700 / +26
Monty 1.0.0 (MCTS): ~ELO 2872 / 1700 games (NEW)
4ku 5.1 x64 1CPU: ~ELO 2897 / 2000 games => +6 to v4.0 (2891)
ice4 v5.0 x64 1CPU: ~ELO 2889 / 2100 games => +90 to v4.0 (2799)
Viridithas 14.0.1NN x64 1CPU: ~3551 / 1800
Cadie 1.8 x64: ~2991 / 1400 / +92 to v1.7
Inanis 1.4.0 x64 1CPU: ~2795 / 1400 / +45
Zangdar 2.30 x64 1CPU: ~3127 / 1600 / +52
Protej 0.6.7 x64: ~3069 / 2000 / +69
Pedantic 2.0.0NN x64 1CPU: ~3172 / 2300 / +156
Molybdenum 4.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3293 / 2300 games => +160 to v. 3.0 (3133)
Stro 4K x64 1CPU: ~ELO 2596 / 1200 games -new-
Tucano 11.00.1NN x64 1CPU: ~ 3264 / 2000 games => -14 to v10.00

5'+3'' pb=on
last update is from September 26th with 18.200 new games, total now 552.650 with 413 Engines/Versions (+14)

we are testing:
Stockfish 17.0NN x64: ~ 3663 / 1800 / +5 to SF 16.0 (3658)
Lynx 1.7.0 x64: ~

A big „Thank you“ to all testers as usual!!

Links

40/20: http://www.cegt.net/rating.htm
Blitz: http://www.cegt.net/blitz.htm
40/120: http://www.cegt.net/rating120.htm
25+8: http://www.cegt.net/rating25plus8.htm
3+1 pb=on: http://www.cegt.net/rating3plus1pbon.htm
5+3 pb=on: http://www.cegt.net/rating5plus3pbon.htm
Tester: http://www.cegt.net/testers/testers.htm

Werner
CEGT-Team

Great to see the new ratings! It’s impressive how many games were played, and the updates on engines like Torch 3NN and Halogen 12.0NN are fascinating.
However, i still have a question. Can you provide more details on the testing process for new engines?

My conditions:
time blitz 10+5
opening sets A-E each 50 openings
Opponents from the list max +-200 Elo
http://www.cegt.net/testers/testers.htm

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CEGT - rating lists August 25th 2024
Hi,
our actual rating lists are online and can be found under the attached links!

40 / 20:
New games: 3.018 with 25 different engines
Total:         1.850.566        games

NEW Engines
56 Motor 0.7.0 x64 1CPU 3520 +16 -16 1111 games (+162 to v. 0.4.0)
493 Odonata 1.0 x64 1CPU 3165 +17 -17 1007 games (new)
25 RubiChess 240817 x64 1CPU 3553 +18 -18 1000 games (+31 to v. 240112)

UPDATES
128 Devre 6.0 x64 1CPU 3459 +16 -16 1271 games (+5)
97 Peacekeeper 3.01 x64 1CPU 3484 +16 -16 1310 games (+3)

40 / 4
last update was July 26th 2024
New games: 29.100; total now: 3.905.430 games (3242 engines, +12)

we are testing:
RubiChess 20240817NN x64 1CPU (final release?): ~3582 / 1700 / +12
Stro 4K x64 1CPU: ~ELO 2596 / 1200 games -new-
Velvet 8.0.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3519 / 2200 games => +28 to v. 7.3.0 (3491)
Motor 0.7.0NN x64: ~3551 / 1400 / +167

Devre 6.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3497 / 2300 games => +180 to v. 5.0 (3317)
Peacekeeper 3.0.1NN x64 1CPU: ~3502 / 1400 / +82
Halogen 12.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3412 / 3100 games => +99 to v. 11.0 (3313)
Caissa 1.20NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3593 / 2300 games => +17 to v. 1.18 (3576)
Torch 3NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3661 / 2500 games
Lizard 10.5NN x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3553 / 2000 games => +59 to v. 10.3 (3494)
Odonata 1.0.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3181 / 2300 games => +150 to v. 0.9.0 (3031)
Princhess 0.18.0 x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3107 / 1600 games => +56 to v. 0.17.0 (3051)
Patricia 3.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3181 / 1700 games => +200 to v. 2.0.1NN (2981)
Nalwald 19 x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3216 / 2000 games => +57 to v. 18 (3159)
Sirius 7.0 x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3121 / 2600 games -new-
Renegade 1.1.0NN x64: ~3446 / 1600 / +120 (1.0.0 = 3326)
Viridithas 13.0.0NN x64 1CPU: ~3531 / 2000 / +41 to v12.0.0
Obsidian 13.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3616 / 2700 games => +20 to v. 12.0 (3596)
Winter 4.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3372 / 2200 games => +140 to v. 3.0 (3232)
KnightX 4.0 x64: ~ 2587 / 1500 games / +29 to v3.8 (2558, v3.9 not tested)
Stash 36.0 x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3257 / 2100 games => +34 to v. 35.0 (3223)
Stormphrax 5.0.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3499 / 2400 games => +59 to v. 4.0.0 (3440, 4.1.0 not tested)
Lynx 1.5.1 x64: ~2660 / 1500 / NEW
Pedantic 1.1.0 x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3046 / 1900 games => +31 to v. 1.0.0 (3015)
Tucano 11.00.1NN x64 1CPU: ~ 3264 / 2000 games => -14 to v10.00

5'+3'' pb=on
last update is from July 10th with 6.000 new games, total now 534.450 with 399 Engines/Versions (+3)

we are testing:
Testing Torch 3NN: ~3653 /2200 games

Stash 36.0 x64: ~3270 / 1500 / +13 to 35.0 (3257)
Wasp 7.00NN x64: ~3~3425 /1500
Texel 1.11NN x64: ~ 3407 / 1400 games => currently NOT enough for the MainList (should be ~~3440)
LC0 0.31 dist-swa 3395000: ~ 3597/900
Dumb 2.1 x64: (later)
and: https://cegt.forumieren.com/t2229-tournaments-with-new-engines-versions-best-versions-list-only

A big „Thank you“ to all testers as usual!!

Links

40/20: http://www.cegt.net/rating.htm
Blitz: http://www.cegt.net/blitz.htm
40/120: http://www.cegt.net/rating120.htm
25+8: http://www.cegt.net/rating25plus8.htm
3+1 pb=on: http://www.cegt.net/rating3plus1pbon.htm
5+3 pb=on: http://www.cegt.net/rating5plus3pbon.htm
Tester: http://www.cegt.net/testers/testers.htm
Games of the week: http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20List/Coordination/gow.jpg

Werner
CEGT-Team

OK, by pure coincidence I read the first version of your post this morning that basically pre-announced that there may be a new number 1 - give or take the (still very relevant) error margins.

What I'd like to know: is this something that makes you excited, Werner, or are you more like the neutral observer of experiments, who couldn't care less?

Cheers.
Peter

Hi Peter,
did you look at the postings or at our lists?
To test is a hobby for me, and I try to test as neutral as possible. Of course I like to see huge progress of an engine or sometimes a new number one (which is very seldom...)

IMO this depends if the engines are original or copied from esch other.

Hi Thorsten, yes of course, but not easy. I do not test SF clones or others. Problem is where get I infos which engine uses a SF net, e.g. Other use LCZero (allowed from the Team) or SF Dates for creating an own net….

Yes. Difficult in these days

Werner wrote:

Hi Peter,
did you look at the postings or at our lists?
To test is a hobby for me, and I try to test as neutral as possible. Of course I like to see huge progress of an engine or sometimes a new number one (which is very seldom...)

I looked at your post only, Werner ( I rarely follow rating lists). You usually do these pre-anncouncements like 98 Peacekeeper and the number 1 got my attention there.

Regarding original engines: this shouldn't be a major issue here as we are not discussing a Stockfish clone. I hope this will become real before we get a new Stockfish for sake of entertainment.

Peter

Hi,
our actual rating lists are online and can be found under the attached links!

40 / 20:
New games: 3.000 with 33 different engines
Total:         1.859.570        games

NEW Engines
954 Dirty Duna x64 2871 +18 -18 1000 games (+74 to v. Cucumber)
2 Stockfish 17.0 x64 1CPU 3622 +13 -13 2000 games (+2 to v. 16.1)

UPDATES
41 Clover 8.0 x64 1CPU 3536 +17 -17 1100 3485 games (-3)
363 Molybdenum 4.0 x64 1CPU 3271 +17 -17 1100 games (+-0)
528 Zangdar 2.30 x64 1CPU 3141 +17 -17 1004 games (-1)

40 / 4
last update was August 29th 2024
New games: 29.300; total now: 3.934.730 games (3255 engines, +13)

we are testing:
ice4 v5.0 x64 1CPU
Viridithas 14.0.1NN x64 1CPU: starting Sept. 22nd

Stockfish 17.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3665 / 2900 games => +8 to v. 16.1 (3657)
Clover 8.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3580 / 1200 games => +29 to v. 6.2 (v. 7.0/7.1 not tested) (3551)
Cadie 1.8 x64: ~2980/300
Inanis 1.4.0 x64 1CPU: ~2796 / 1200 / +46
Zangdar 2.30 x64 1CPU: ~3127 / 1600 / +52
Protej 0.6.7 x64: ~3069 / 2000 / +69
Pedantic 2.0.0NN x64 1CPU: ~3172 / 2300 / +156
Molybdenum 4.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3293 / 2300 games => +160 to v. 3.0 (3133)
RubiChess 20240817NN x64 1CPU (final release?): ~3582 / 1900 / +12
Stro 4K x64 1CPU: ~ELO 2596 / 1200 games -new-
Velvet 8.0.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3519 / 2200 games => +28 to v. 7.3.0 (3491)
Motor 0.7.0NN x64: ~3551 / 1400 / +167
Devre 6.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3497 / 2300 games => +180 to v. 5.0 (3317)
Peacekeeper 3.0.1NN x64 1CPU: ~3502 / 1400 / +82
Halogen 12.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3412 / 3100 games => +99 to v. 11.0 (3313)
Caissa 1.20NN x64 1CPU: ~ELO 3593 / 2300 games => +17 to v. 1.18 (3576)
Lizard 10.5NN x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3553 / 2000 games => +59 to v. 10.3 (3494)
Odonata 1.0.0NN x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3181 / 2300 games => +150 to v. 0.9.0 (3031)
Princhess 0.18.0 x64 1CPU: ~ ELO 3107 / 1600 games => +56 to v. 0.17.0 (3051)
Tucano 11.00.1NN x64 1CPU: ~ 3264 / 2000 games => -14 to v10.00

5'+3'' pb=on
last update is from July 10th with 6.000 new games, total now 534.450 with 399 Engines/Versions (+3)

we are testing:
Stockfish 17.0NN x64

Caissa 1.20NN x64: ~3594 / 2100 / +18 to 1.17, last tested version
RubiChess 20240817NN x64: ~3588 / +13 (3575)
Velvet 8.0.0NN x64: ~3530 / +26 (3504)
Torch 3NN: ~3653 /2200 games
Stash 36.0 x64: ~3270 / 1500 / +13 to 35.0 (3257)
Wasp 7.00NN x64: ~3~3425 /1500
Texel 1.11NN x64: ~ 3407 / 1400 games => currently NOT enough for the MainList (should be ~~3440)
Dumb 2.1 x64: (later)
and: https://cegt.forumieren.com/t2229-tournaments-with-new-engines-versions-best-versions-list-only

A big „Thank you“ to all testers as usual!!

Links

40/20: http://www.cegt.net/rating.htm
Blitz: http://www.cegt.net/blitz.htm
40/120: http://www.cegt.net/rating120.htm
25+8: http://www.cegt.net/rating25plus8.htm
3+1 pb=on: http://www.cegt.net/rating3plus1pbon.htm
5+3 pb=on: http://www.cegt.net/rating5plus3pbon.htm
Tester: http://www.cegt.net/testers/testers.htm
Games of the week: http://www.cegt.net/40_40%20Rating%20List/Coordination/gow.jpg

Werner
CEGT-Team