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Damir Desevac

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PostSubject: New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)   New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres) EmptyFri Jan 01, 2021 6:49 pm

Announcement from Leela discord.

Long time community member and developer @dje has created a new chess engine that uses Leela Chess Zero networks. It appears much stronger than lc0 (see the performance test below).

Link to source code: https://github.com/dje-dev/Ceres

How to setup the engine: https://github.com/dje-dev/Ceres/blob/main/Setup.md

New engine is approx 2.3x faster than Lco!

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PostSubject: Re: New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)   New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres) EmptyFri Jan 01, 2021 11:44 pm

Thanks. I look forward to reading how the speedup was achieved. The obvious answer (which might be wrong) would be by using smaller nets.

My opinion (which I cannot support with data) is that at the moment, the sweet spot for network size is somewhere between Leela and NNUE, and a BIG breakthrough will come when the training of the networks improve so that bigger networks with lower NPS become more effective than smaller, faster networks.
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PostSubject: Re: New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)   New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres) EmptySun Jan 03, 2021 12:16 pm

Here is a Boxed version that was uploaded by Chad on Discord. You will need to have Dot Net 5 installed.

Ceres: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yPF13m7rgsP9xM6f1UsOSeLhS2_lW1gz/view?usp=sharing

Dot Net: https://dotnet.microsoft.com/download/dotnet/thank-you/runtime-desktop-5.0.1-windows-x64-installer

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PostSubject: Re: New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)   New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres) EmptyMon Jan 04, 2021 3:17 pm

Have you checked out the real time monitoring tool.

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PostSubject: Re: New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)   New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres) EmptyMon Jan 04, 2021 4:05 pm

Looks like you got it to work, we will soon find out if it is as strong as announced.

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PostSubject: Re: New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres)   New rewritten Lco engine ( Ceres) EmptyMon Jan 04, 2021 4:10 pm

Admin wrote:
Looks like you got it to work, we will soon find out if it is as strong as announced.


Yeah, I had to run in Powershell 1st

Code:

dotnet tool install --global dotnet-counters

Then I ran from Command Line, which updated the ceres.json file also.

Code:

ceres setopt launch-monitor=true

After that just running normal ceres.exe would automatically pop up real time monitoring window which can be disabled by editing json file.
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