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Subject: Re: Bought and disassembled a commodore c64 Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:32 pm
I begin with putting the c64 from 1 to 4 mhz. Then i take out my monte carlo IV with ed schröder software and let colossus fight 4 mhz versus eds monte carlo IV engine.
This is astonishing if we think about that colossus was sold 1985 while Eds maschine came out 1989.
I wonder why Martin never ended in a dedicated chess computer :-)
Maybe nobody remembered how strong those old homecomputer software engines were. Or people used the buggy atari st/amiga/PC Version Colossus X as a reference.
Mclane
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Subject: Re: Bought and disassembled a commodore c64 Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:54 pm
the next engine i tried on my slightly oc C64 hardware is Chessmaster 2100. Chessmaster 2000 had a Kittinger engine. But this Chessmaster 2100 is different. It has a Spracklen engine.
Here the game against Monte Carlo IV:
[pgn] [Event "40/120 c64 4mhz"] [Site "SCW"] [Date "2021.04.10"] [Round "1"] [White "Chessmaster2100 C64 4mhz"] [Black "Mephisto Monte Carlo IV 4mhz"] [ECO "C10"] [Result "1-0"]
Posts : 3024 Join date : 2020-11-17 Age : 57 Location : United States of Europe, Germany, Ruhr area
Subject: Re: Bought and disassembled a commodore c64 Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:08 pm
We don't know exactly which engine they used in the CM2100. And with 1 mhz it would not have had a chance against the Monte Carlo IV.
After 1988 not many people tested the engines on the C64 mainly because with 1 mhz they had not much chance against the faster dedicated chess computers on the market. and then came the 16 bit hardware and the c64 was an old fossile.
but we have the chance today to find out how these engines could have played with SIMILAR hardware and relate it against each other.
Mclane
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Subject: Re: Bought and disassembled a commodore c64 Wed Apr 21, 2021 9:12 pm
Novags Super-Forte C has a Kittinger Engine. It is together with Ed Schroeders Engines on 6502 a very strong opponent for the engines on C64.
Super-Forte C gets 1/2 points out of 5 games against Colossus Chess 4 C64 with 8 mhz.
Amazing.
Mclane
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Subject: Re: Bought and disassembled a commodore c64 Wed Apr 28, 2021 12:09 pm
[/url] the next opponent is a fidelity elegance, a tiny wooden machine from USA with spacklen program. it is tuned to 8 mhz so the hardware of both machines is 1:1 the same.
Subject: Re: Bought and disassembled a commodore c64 Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:35 pm
This is probably the smallest GUI OS there is. Two years ago, this article (link) said that the smallest GUI OS fits on a floppy disc - but 1.44 mb (floppy disc capacity) is FAR too big for a C64.
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Subject: Re: Bought and disassembled a commodore c64