Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Sat Oct 02, 2021 4:23 pm Benjamin 1.1 +53 Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Benjamin 1.1 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-benjamin.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % --------------------------------------------------------- 1 Benjamin 1.1 +435 =251 -314 *0 560.5 1000 56.0% 2 Zahak 6.0 +74 =41 -85 *0 94.5 200 47.2% 3 Nalwald 1.11 +63 =56 -81 *0 91.0 200 45.5% 4 BitGenie 7 +67 =45 -88 *0 89.5 200 44.8% 5 Velvet 1.2.0 +59 =49 -92 *0 83.5 200 41.8% 6 Orion 07 +51 =60 -89 *0 81.0 200 40.5% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 365 (36.5%) Black Wins: 384 (38.4%) Draws: 251 (25.1%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Benjamin_1.1 Elo pool : 2752 Benjamin 1.0 : 2734.0 Benjamin_1.1 : 2787.6 Difference : 53.6
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Posts : 2759Join date : 2020-11-17Age : 56Location : United States of Europe, Germany, Ruhr area Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Sat Oct 02, 2021 6:42 pm Is benjamin 1.1 a new version ?!
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Sat Oct 02, 2021 9:52 pm Mantissa 2.5.0 : 2747 elo Code: Gambit Rating List Running : gauntlet Mantissa 2.5.0 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-mantissa.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ----------------------------------------------------------- 1 Mantissa 2.5.0 +451 =243 -306 *0 572.5 1000 57.2% 2 k2 099 +69 =44 -87 *0 91.0 200 45.5% 3 ProDeo 2.2 +60 =55 -85 *0 87.5 200 43.8% 4 Dumb 1.8 +55 =64 -81 *0 87.0 200 43.5% 5 Zahak 5.0 +61 =44 -95 *0 83.0 200 41.5% 6 Supernova 2.4 +61 =36 -103 *0 79.0 200 39.5% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 379 (37.9%) Black Wins: 378 (37.8%) Draws: 243 (24.3%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 2705 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Mantissa 2.5.0 : 2747.7 572.5 1000 57 2 k2 099 : 2716.1 91.0 200 46 3 ProDeo 2.2 : 2703.7 87.5 200 44 4 Dumb 1.8 : 2701.9 87.0 200 44 5 Zahak 5.0 : 2687.6 83.0 200 42 6 Supernova 2.4 : 2673.0 79.0 200 40
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Sun Oct 03, 2021 5:27 am Demolito 2021-09-30 : 3151 elo Code: Gambit Rating List Running : gauntlet Demolito_2021-09-30 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1400 Results from file gauntlet-demolito.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ---------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Demolito 2021-09-30 +377 =486 -537 *0 620.0 1400 44.3% 2 Weiss 2.0 +99 =81 -20 *0 139.5 200 69.8% 3 Clover 2.4 +85 =77 -38 *0 123.5 200 61.8% 4 Stockfish 5 +76 =81 -43 *0 116.5 200 58.2% 5 Seer 2.1.0 +85 =59 -56 *0 114.5 200 57.2% 6 Wasp 4.50 +69 =71 -60 *0 104.5 200 52.2% 7 Halogen 10 +64 =66 -70 *0 97.0 200 48.5% 8 Minic 3.13 +59 =51 -90 *0 84.5 200 42.2% Total Games: 1400 White Wins: 441 (31.5%) Black Wins: 473 (33.8%) Draws: 486 (34.7%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 3188 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Weiss 2.0 : 3298.1 139.5 200 70 2 Clover 2.4 : 3235.6 123.5 200 62 3 Stockfish 5 : 3210.1 116.5 200 58 4 Seer 2.1.0 : 3202.9 114.5 200 57 5 Wasp 4.50 : 3167.5 104.5 200 52 6 Demolito 2021-09-30 : 3151.7 620.0 1400 44 7 Halogen 10 : 3141.2 97.0 200 49 8 Minic 3.13 : 3096.9 84.5 200 42
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:25 pm Shallow v4 : 2804 elo Code: Gambit Rating List Running : gauntlet Shallow v4 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1200 Results from file gauntlet-shallow.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ----------------------------------------------------------- 1 Shallow v4 +382 =317 -501 *0 540.5 1200 45.0% 2 Drofa 3.0.0 +97 =49 -54 *0 121.5 200 60.8% 3 Olithink 5.9.8 +91 =53 -56 *0 117.5 200 58.8% 4 Cheese 2.2 +75 =65 -60 *0 107.5 200 53.8% 5 Nemo 1.01 +81 =49 -70 *0 105.5 200 52.8% 6 Velvet 2.0.0 +76 =56 -68 *0 104.0 200 52.0% 7 Nalwald 1.14 +81 =45 -74 *0 103.5 200 51.8% Total Games: 1200 White Wins: 479 (39.9%) Black Wins: 404 (33.7%) Draws: 317 (26.4%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 2835 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Drofa 3.0.0 : 2881.5 121.5 200 61 2 Olithink 5.9.8 : 2866.9 117.5 200 59 3 Cheese 2.2 : 2831.3 107.5 200 54 4 Nemo 1.01 : 2824.2 105.5 200 53 5 Velvet 2.0.0 : 2819.0 104.0 200 52 6 Nalwald 1.14 : 2817.2 103.5 200 52 7 Shallow v4 : 2804.9 540.5 1200 45
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:57 am Lozza 2.0a : 2561 elo Code: Gambit Rating List Running : gauntlet Lozza 2.0a Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1200 Results from file gauntlet-lozza.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ---------------------------------------------------------- 1 Lozza 2.0a +515 =343 -342 *0 686.5 1200 57.2% 2 Zahak 4.0 +65 =71 -64 *0 100.5 200 50.2% 3 Orion 05 +70 =59 -71 *0 99.5 200 49.8% 4 Monolith 0.3 +51 =59 -90 *0 80.5 200 40.2% 5 CT800 1.43 +52 =56 -92 *0 80.0 200 40.0% 6 Nalwald 1.8.1 +56 =47 -97 *0 79.5 200 39.8% 7 Loki 3.5.0 +48 =51 -101 *0 73.5 200 36.8% Total Games: 1200 White Wins: 433 (36.1%) Black Wins: 424 (35.3%) Draws: 343 (28.6%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 2517 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Zahak 4.0 : 2562.8 100.5 200 50 2 Lozza 2.0a : 2561.0 686.5 1200 57 3 Orion 05 : 2559.3 99.5 200 50 4 Monolith 0.3 : 2491.8 80.5 200 40 5 CT800 1.43 : 2490.0 80.0 200 40 6 Nalwald 1.8.1 : 2488.2 79.5 200 40 7 Loki 3.5.0 : 2465.9 73.5 200 37
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:47 am Zahak 7.0 : +156 elo Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Zahak 7.0 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-zahak.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ---------------------------------------------------------- 1 Zahak 7.0 +393 =276 -331 *0 531.0 1000 53.1% 2 Asymptote 0.8 +83 =42 -75 *0 104.0 200 52.0% 3 Cheng 4.40 +73 =57 -70 *0 101.5 200 50.8% 4 Wasp 1.25 +65 =60 -75 *0 95.0 200 47.5% 5 Komodo 1.0 +63 =58 -79 *0 92.0 200 46.0% 6 BitGenie 8 +47 =59 -94 *0 76.5 200 38.2% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 337 (33.7%) Black Wins: 387 (38.7%) Draws: 276 (27.6%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Zahak_7.0 Elo pool : 2911 Zahak 6.0 : 2773.0 Zahak_7.0 : 2929.4 Difference : 156.4
Incredible progress with such a small NNUE based on only 58 million positions.
I suppose Zahak has a great future.
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:45 pm Counter 4.0 : +48 Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Counter 4.0 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-counter.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % -------------------------------------------------------- 1 Counter 4.0 +353 =335 -312 *0 520.5 1000 52.0% 2 Stash 31.0 +77 =88 -35 *0 121.0 200 60.5% 3 Marvin 5.1 +69 =71 -60 *0 104.5 200 52.2% 4 Winter 0.9 +66 =56 -78 *0 94.0 200 47.0% 5 Drofa 3.2.0 +53 =66 -81 *0 86.0 200 43.0% 6 Orion 0.8 +47 =54 -99 *0 74.0 200 37.0% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 333 (33.3%) Black Wins: 332 (33.2%) Draws: 335 (33.5%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Counter_4.0 Elo pool : 3101 Counter 3.9 : 3065.0 Counter_4.0 : 3113.2 Difference : 48.2
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:35 pm Minic 3.14 : +6 Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Minic 3.14 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1200 Results from file gauntlet-minic.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ------------------------------------------------------- 1 Minic 3.14 +370 =457 -373 *0 598.5 1200 49.9% 2 Clover 2.4 +64 =81 -55 *0 104.5 200 52.2% 3 Weiss 1.4 +71 =66 -63 *0 104.0 200 52.0% 4 Seer 2.1.0 +61 =82 -57 *0 102.0 200 51.0% 5 Stash 31.0 +68 =65 -67 *0 100.5 200 50.2% 6 Wasp 4.50 +56 =82 -62 *0 97.0 200 48.5% 7 Halogen 10 +53 =81 -66 *0 93.5 200 46.8% Total Games: 1200 White Wins: 372 (31.0%) Black Wins: 371 (30.9%) Draws: 457 (38.1%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Minic_3.14 Elo pool : 3166 Minic 3.13 : 3159.0 Minic_3.14 : 3165.3 Difference : 6.3
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:12 pm PART-ONE Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Testing Stockfish-DEV 21-10-06 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-sf14-dev.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ---------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Stockfish 21-10-06 +556 =427 -17 *0 769.5 1000 77.0% 2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5 +12 =149 -39 *0 86.5 200 43.2% 3 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE +1 =77 -122 *0 39.5 200 19.8% 4 SlowChess 2.7 +1 =72 -127 *0 37.0 200 18.5% 5 Koivisto 6.16 +1 =67 -132 *0 34.5 200 17.2% 6 RubiChess 2.2 +2 =62 -136 *0 33.0 200 16.5% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 297 (29.7%) Black Wins: 276 (27.6%) Draws: 427 (42.7%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 3482 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Stockfish 21-10-06 : 3667.3 769.5 1000 77 2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5 : 3619.7 86.5 200 43 3 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE : 3421.7 39.5 200 20 4 SlowChess 2.7 : 3407.5 37.0 200 19 5 Koivisto 6.16 : 3392.6 34.5 200 17 6 RubiChess 2.2 : 3383.2 33.0 200 17
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:52 am PART-TWO Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Testing Stockfish-DEV 21-10-06 [part2] Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-sf14-dev2.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % --------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Stockfish 21-10-06 +656 =335 -9 *0 823.5 1000 82.3% 2 Komodo-Dragon 2 +5 =115 -80 *0 62.5 200 31.2% 3 SlowChess 2.6 +2 =60 -138 *0 32.0 200 16.0% 4 RubiChess 2.1 +1 =54 -145 *0 28.0 200 14.0% 5 Koivisto 6.0-sse2 +0 =55 -145 *0 27.5 200 13.8% 6 Ethereal 13-NNUE +1 =51 -148 *0 26.5 200 13.2% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 345 (34.5%) Black Wins: 320 (32.0%) Draws: 335 (33.5%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 3444 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Stockfish 21-10-06 : 3677.0 823.5 1000 82 2 Komodo-Dragon 2 : 3538.8 62.5 200 31 3 SlowChess 2.6 : 3386.4 32.0 200 16 4 RubiChess 2.1 : 3358.9 28.0 200 14 5 Koivisto 6.0-sse2 : 3355.2 27.5 200 14 6 Ethereal 13-NNUE : 3347.7 26.5 200 13
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:19 pm Gauntlet Berserk 6 : estimated +114 elo Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Berserk 6 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-berserk-6.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ----------------------------------------------------------- 1 Berserk 6 +364 =477 -159 *0 602.5 1000 60.2% 2 Igel 3.0.5 +38 =102 -60 *0 89.0 200 44.5% 3 Ethereal 12.75 +33 =107 -60 *0 86.5 200 43.2% 4 Pedone 3.1 +34 =100 -66 *0 84.0 200 42.0% 5 Komodo 11 +29 =86 -85 *0 72.0 200 36.0% 6 Seer 2.3.0 +25 =82 -93 *0 66.0 200 33.0% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 259 (25.9%) Black Wins: 264 (26.4%) Draws: 477 (47.7%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Berserk_6 Elo pool : 3351 Berserk 4.5.0 : 3298.0 Berserk_6 : 3412.3 Difference : 114.3
We try another 1000 games against an even stronger pool.
Elo pool : 3411
http://rebel13.nl/b/grl.htm
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Posts : 610Join date : 2020-11-26 Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:06 am Ed, did you think about implementing a little NN in Pro Deo? Amanj did it with less than 100M fens, Jay Honnold used 250M fens, and these small nets added more than 100 Elos to their engines. Benjamin, Pro Deo with a NN -- or several few nets like in SlowChess, a combination of nets and HCE could be a challenge and the next step.
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:11 am matejst wrote: Ed, did you think about implementing a little NN in Pro Deo? Amanj did it with less than 100M fens, Jay Honnold used 250M fens, and these small nets added more than 100 Elos to their engines. Benjamin, Pro Deo with a NN -- or several few nets like in SlowChess, a combination of nets and HCE could be a challenge and the next step. I don't have the right compiler for that. I have tried with the help of another programmer and the NPS dropped with a factor of 10.
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:13 am Great
second result for Berserk 6, scored a rating of 3414.
Code: Gambit Rating List Running : gauntlet Berserk 6 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-berserk-6a.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % -------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Berserk 6 +240 =528 -232 *0 504.0 1000 50.4% 2 Stockfish 9 +55 =105 -40 *0 107.5 200 53.8% 3 RubiChess 2.2 +45 =112 -43 *0 101.0 200 50.5% 4 Komodo 12 +55 =88 -57 *0 99.0 200 49.5% 5 SlowChess 2.6 +39 =113 -48 *0 95.5 200 47.8% 6 Koivisto 6.0-sse2 +38 =110 -52 *0 93.0 200 46.5% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 220 (22.0%) Black Wins: 252 (25.2%) Draws: 528 (52.8%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 3411 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Stockfish 9 : 3439.7 107.5 200 54 2 RubiChess 2.2 : 3416.8 101.0 200 51 3 Berserk 6 : 3413.3 504.0 1000 50 4 Komodo 12 : 3409.8 99.0 200 50 5 SlowChess 2.6 : 3397.6 95.5 200 48 6 Koivisto 6.0-sse2 : 3388.8 93.0 200 47
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:14 am Current top-10 Code: Gambit Rating List : Provisional # PLAYER : RATING ERROR POINTS PLAYED (%) CFS(%) W D L D(%) 1 Stockfish 21-10-06 : 3712.9 22.3 1593.0 2000 80 94 1212 762 26 38 2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5 : 3648.2 17.7 1527.5 2200 69 100 998 1059 143 48 3 Lc0 v28 : 3587.4 23.3 591.5 1000 59 100 335 513 152 51 4 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE : 3464.1 9.2 2049.0 4000 51 100 1101 1896 1003 47 5 Koivisto 6.16 : 3452.3 10.2 1168.0 2600 45 92 536 1264 800 49 6 SlowChess 2.7 : 3438.1 16.4 1177.0 2800 42 98 458 1438 904 51 7 Berserk 6 : 3418.5 14.6 1106.5 2000 55 84 604 1005 391 50 8 RubiChess 2.2 : 3412.6 8.4 1880.5 4200 45 98 876 2009 1315 48 9 Igel 3.0.5 : 3363.4 12.5 1724.5 4500 38 57 682 2085 1733 46 10 Pedone 3.1 : 3362.2 11.1 1942.5 4500 43 57 972 1941 1587 43
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:18 am Berserk 5 : estimated elo gain +45 Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Berserk 5 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1400 Results from file gauntlet-berserk-5.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ----------------------------------------------------------- 1 Berserk 5 +481 =655 -264 *0 808.5 1400 57.8% 2 Komodo 11 +40 =109 -51 *0 94.5 200 47.2% 3 Ethereal 12.00 +45 =98 -57 *0 94.0 200 47.0% 4 Nemorino 6.00 +44 =96 -60 *0 92.0 200 46.0% 5 Komodo 10 +47 =79 -74 *0 86.5 200 43.2% 6 Pedone 3.0 +41 =88 -71 *0 85.0 200 42.5% 7 Booot 6.5 +25 =97 -78 *0 73.5 200 36.8% 8 rofChade 2.3 +22 =88 -90 *0 66.0 200 33.0% Total Games: 1400 White Wins: 352 (25.1%) Black Wins: 393 (28.1%) Draws: 655 (46.8%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Berserk_5 Elo pool : 3295 Berserk 4.5.0 : 3298.0 Berserk_5 : 3343.5 Difference : 45.5
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:59 am Estimated elo gain for Minic 3.16 : +32 Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Minic 3.16 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1200 Results from file gauntlet-minic-316.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ------------------------------------------------------- 1 Minic 3.16 +451 =421 -328 *0 661.5 1200 55.1% 2 Clover 2.4 +68 =71 -61 *0 103.5 200 51.8% 3 Seer 2.1.0 +54 =70 -76 *0 89.0 200 44.5% 4 Stash 31.0 +59 =59 -82 *0 88.5 200 44.2% 5 Wasp 4.50 +51 =74 -75 *0 88.0 200 44.0% 6 Weiss 1.4 +52 =72 -76 *0 88.0 200 44.0% 7 Halogen 10 +44 =75 -81 *0 81.5 200 40.8% Total Games: 1200 White Wins: 398 (33.2%) Black Wins: 381 (31.8%) Draws: 421 (35.1%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Minic_3.16 Elo pool : 3168 Minic 3.14 : 3167.0 Minic_3.16 : 3199.0 Difference : 32.0
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Posts : 610Join date : 2020-11-26 Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:22 am Admin wrote: matejst wrote: Ed, did you think about implementing a little NN in Pro Deo? Amanj did it with less than 100M fens, Jay Honnold used 250M fens, and these small nets added more than 100 Elos to their engines. Benjamin, Pro Deo with a NN -- or several few nets like in SlowChess, a combination of nets and HCE could be a challenge and the next step. I don't have the right compiler for that. I have tried with the help of another programmer and the NPS dropped with a factor of 10. Could you still send me this engine for testing? I do not care about the raw strength, since I am analysing most of the time, or even playing, but I would very interested by the evaluation. My guess is that since Pro Deo has a slower search and his eval was optimised for lower depths, with more knowledge that it is usual today, the net should be quite strong.
I also feel that such an engine could look more like a real human.
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 20, 2021 5:34 pm The NNUE implementation started in its simplest way, only for the 3-6 man positions. It did pretty well but as already said the NPS dropped with a factor of ~10. Compiler doesn't support the needed CPU extensions for modern computers. And so it ended.
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:58 pm Estimated elo gain for Colossus 2021b : +35 Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Colossus 2021b Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1200 Results from file gauntlet-Colossus.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ----------------------------------------------------------- 1 Colossus 2021b +407 =337 -456 *0 575.5 1200 48.0% 2 Nalwald 1.14 +96 =55 -49 *0 123.5 200 61.8% 3 Zahak 6.0 +85 =58 -57 *0 114.0 200 57.0% 4 ProDeo 3.1 +76 =54 -70 *0 103.0 200 51.5% 5 Orion 07 +64 =64 -72 *0 96.0 200 48.0% 6 Mantissa 2.5.0 +70 =51 -79 *0 95.5 200 47.8% 7 Velvet 1.2.0 +65 =55 -80 *0 92.5 200 46.2% Total Games: 1200 White Wins: 424 (35.3%) Black Wins: 439 (36.6%) Draws: 337 (28.1%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Colossus_2021b Elo pool : 2767 Colossus 2021a : 2719.0 Colossus_2021b : 2754.5 Difference : 35.5
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:25 am Estimated elo gain for Velvet 3.0.0 : +114 Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Velvet 3.0.0 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-velvet.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ---------------------------------------------------------- 1 Velvet 3.0.0 +528 =240 -232 *0 648.0 1000 64.8% 2 Asymptote 0.8 +67 =44 -89 *0 89.0 200 44.5% 3 Cheese 2.2 +48 =40 -112 *0 68.0 200 34.0% 4 Nemo 1.01 +39 =57 -104 *0 67.5 200 33.8% 5 Drofa 3.0.0 +37 =54 -109 *0 64.0 200 32.0% 6 BitGenie 8 +41 =45 -114 *0 63.5 200 31.8% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 379 (37.9%) Black Wins: 381 (38.1%) Draws: 240 (24.0%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Velvet_3.0.0 Elo pool : 2860 Velvet 2.0.0 : 2836.0 Velvet_3.0.0 : 2949.9 Difference : 113.9
Quite some surprise because no estimate elo gain was given by the author.
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:00 am Estimated elo gain for Zahak 8.0 : + 207 Code: Gambit Rating List Running : Gauntlet Zahak 8.0 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-zahak.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % -------------------------------------------------------- 1 Zahak 8.0 +252 =362 -386 *0 433.0 1000 43.3% 2 Stockfish 5 +98 =56 -46 *0 126.0 200 63.0% 3 Clover 2.4 +78 =82 -40 *0 119.0 200 59.5% 4 Minic 3.14 +69 =79 -52 *0 108.5 200 54.2% 5 Wasp 4.50 +77 =63 -60 *0 108.5 200 54.2% 6 Halogen 10 +64 =82 -54 *0 105.0 200 52.5% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 285 (28.5%) Black Wins: 353 (35.3%) Draws: 362 (36.2%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated elo gain for Zahak_8.0 Elo pool : 3180 Zahak 7.0 : 2933.0 Zahak_8.0 : 3140.3 Difference : 207.3
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Posts : 2426Join date : 2020-11-17Location : Netherlands Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:15 am Koivisto 6.23 elo rating : 3458 Code: Gambit Rating List Running : gauntlet Koivisto 6.23 Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000 Results from file gauntlet-koivisto.pgn: No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % ---------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Koivisto 6.23 +143 =533 -324 *0 409.5 1000 41.0% 2 Stockfish 14 +130 =70 -0 *0 165.0 200 82.5% 3 Komodo-Dragon 2 +83 =106 -11 *0 136.0 200 68.0% 4 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE +39 =127 -34 *0 102.5 200 51.2% 5 SlowChess 2.7 +42 =111 -47 *0 97.5 200 48.8% 6 RubiChess 2.2 +30 =119 -51 *0 89.5 200 44.8% Total Games: 1000 White Wins: 259 (25.9%) Black Wins: 208 (20.8%) Draws: 533 (53.3%) Unfinished: 0 (0.0%) Estimated ratings for this elo 3519 pool # PLAYER : RATING POINTS PLAYED (%) 1 Stockfish 14 : 3729.6 165.0 200 83 2 Komodo-Dragon 2 : 3589.9 136.0 200 68 3 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE : 3466.6 102.5 200 51 4 Koivisto 6.23 : 3457.9 409.5 1000 41 5 SlowChess 2.7 : 3449.1 97.5 200 49 6 RubiChess 2.2 : 3420.9 89.5 200 45
Not sure if this is an official version.
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Subject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results
Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results