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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptySat Oct 02, 2021 4:23 pm

Benjamin 1.1 +53

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : Gauntlet Benjamin 1.1
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-benjamin.pgn:

No. Name          Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Benjamin 1.1 +435 =251 -314   *0  560.5  1000   56.0%
  2 Zahak 6.0     +74  =41  -85   *0   94.5   200   47.2%
  3 Nalwald 1.11  +63  =56  -81   *0   91.0   200   45.5%
  4 BitGenie 7    +67  =45  -88   *0   89.5   200   44.8%
  5 Velvet 1.2.0  +59  =49  -92   *0   83.5   200   41.8%
  6 Orion 07      +51  =60  -89   *0   81.0   200   40.5%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      365 (36.5%)
Black Wins:      384 (38.4%)
Draws:           251 (25.1%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Benjamin_1.1
Elo pool : 2752
Benjamin 1.0 : 2734.0
Benjamin_1.1 : 2787.6
Difference : 53.6

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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptySat Oct 02, 2021 6:42 pm

Is benjamin 1.1 a new version ?!
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptySat Oct 02, 2021 6:46 pm

Yep.
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptySat Oct 02, 2021 9:52 pm

Mantissa 2.5.0 : 2747 elo

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : gauntlet Mantissa 2.5.0
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-mantissa.pgn:

No. Name            Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Mantissa 2.5.0 +451 =243 -306   *0  572.5  1000   57.2%
  2 k2 099          +69  =44  -87   *0   91.0   200   45.5%
  3 ProDeo 2.2      +60  =55  -85   *0   87.5   200   43.8%
  4 Dumb 1.8        +55  =64  -81   *0   87.0   200   43.5%
  5 Zahak 5.0       +61  =44  -95   *0   83.0   200   41.5%
  6 Supernova 2.4   +61  =36 -103   *0   79.0   200   39.5%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      379 (37.9%)
Black Wins:      378 (37.8%)
Draws:           243 (24.3%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 2705 pool

   # PLAYER            :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Mantissa 2.5.0    :  2747.7   572.5    1000    57
   2 k2 099            :  2716.1    91.0     200    46
   3 ProDeo 2.2        :  2703.7    87.5     200    44
   4 Dumb 1.8          :  2701.9    87.0     200    44
   5 Zahak 5.0         :  2687.6    83.0     200    42
   6 Supernova 2.4     :  2673.0    79.0     200    40
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptySun Oct 03, 2021 5:27 am

Demolito 2021-09-30 : 3151 elo

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : gauntlet Demolito_2021-09-30
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1400

Results from file gauntlet-demolito.pgn:

No. Name                 Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Demolito 2021-09-30 +377 =486 -537   *0  620.0  1400   44.3%
  2 Weiss 2.0            +99  =81  -20   *0  139.5   200   69.8%
  3 Clover 2.4           +85  =77  -38   *0  123.5   200   61.8%
  4 Stockfish 5          +76  =81  -43   *0  116.5   200   58.2%
  5 Seer 2.1.0           +85  =59  -56   *0  114.5   200   57.2%
  6 Wasp 4.50            +69  =71  -60   *0  104.5   200   52.2%
  7 Halogen 10           +64  =66  -70   *0   97.0   200   48.5%
  8 Minic 3.13           +59  =51  -90   *0   84.5   200   42.2%

Total Games:    1400
White Wins:      441 (31.5%)
Black Wins:      473 (33.8%)
Draws:           486 (34.7%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 3188 pool

   # PLAYER                 :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Weiss 2.0              :  3298.1   139.5     200    70
   2 Clover 2.4             :  3235.6   123.5     200    62
   3 Stockfish 5            :  3210.1   116.5     200    58
   4 Seer 2.1.0             :  3202.9   114.5     200    57
   5 Wasp 4.50              :  3167.5   104.5     200    52
   6 Demolito 2021-09-30    :  3151.7   620.0    1400    44
   7 Halogen 10             :  3141.2    97.0     200    49
   8 Minic 3.13             :  3096.9    84.5     200    42
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptySun Oct 03, 2021 3:25 pm

Shallow v4 : 2804 elo

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : gauntlet Shallow v4
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1200

Results from file gauntlet-shallow.pgn:

No. Name            Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Shallow v4     +382 =317 -501   *0  540.5  1200   45.0%
  2 Drofa 3.0.0     +97  =49  -54   *0  121.5   200   60.8%
  3 Olithink 5.9.8  +91  =53  -56   *0  117.5   200   58.8%
  4 Cheese 2.2      +75  =65  -60   *0  107.5   200   53.8%
  5 Nemo 1.01       +81  =49  -70   *0  105.5   200   52.8%
  6 Velvet 2.0.0    +76  =56  -68   *0  104.0   200   52.0%
  7 Nalwald 1.14    +81  =45  -74   *0  103.5   200   51.8%

Total Games:    1200
White Wins:      479 (39.9%)
Black Wins:      404 (33.7%)
Draws:           317 (26.4%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 2835 pool

   # PLAYER            :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Drofa 3.0.0       :  2881.5   121.5     200    61
   2 Olithink 5.9.8    :  2866.9   117.5     200    59
   3 Cheese 2.2        :  2831.3   107.5     200    54
   4 Nemo 1.01         :  2824.2   105.5     200    53
   5 Velvet 2.0.0      :  2819.0   104.0     200    52
   6 Nalwald 1.14      :  2817.2   103.5     200    52
   7 Shallow v4        :  2804.9   540.5    1200    45
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2021 1:57 am

Lozza 2.0a : 2561 elo

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : gauntlet Lozza 2.0a
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1200

Results from file gauntlet-lozza.pgn:

No. Name           Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Lozza 2.0a    +515 =343 -342   *0  686.5  1200   57.2%
  2 Zahak 4.0      +65  =71  -64   *0  100.5   200   50.2%
  3 Orion 05       +70  =59  -71   *0   99.5   200   49.8%
  4 Monolith 0.3   +51  =59  -90   *0   80.5   200   40.2%
  5 CT800 1.43     +52  =56  -92   *0   80.0   200   40.0%
  6 Nalwald 1.8.1  +56  =47  -97   *0   79.5   200   39.8%
  7 Loki 3.5.0     +48  =51 -101   *0   73.5   200   36.8%

Total Games:    1200
White Wins:      433 (36.1%)
Black Wins:      424 (35.3%)
Draws:           343 (28.6%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 2517 pool

   # PLAYER           :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Zahak 4.0        :  2562.8   100.5     200    50
   2 Lozza 2.0a       :  2561.0   686.5    1200    57
   3 Orion 05         :  2559.3    99.5     200    50
   4 Monolith 0.3     :  2491.8    80.5     200    40
   5 CT800 1.43       :  2490.0    80.0     200    40
   6 Nalwald 1.8.1    :  2488.2    79.5     200    40
   7 Loki 3.5.0       :  2465.9    73.5     200    37
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyMon Oct 04, 2021 9:47 am

Zahak 7.0 : +156 elo

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : Gauntlet Zahak 7.0
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-zahak.pgn:

No. Name           Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Zahak 7.0     +393 =276 -331   *0  531.0  1000   53.1%
  2 Asymptote 0.8  +83  =42  -75   *0  104.0   200   52.0%
  3 Cheng 4.40     +73  =57  -70   *0  101.5   200   50.8%
  4 Wasp 1.25      +65  =60  -75   *0   95.0   200   47.5%
  5 Komodo 1.0     +63  =58  -79   *0   92.0   200   46.0%
  6 BitGenie 8     +47  =59  -94   *0   76.5   200   38.2%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      337 (33.7%)
Black Wins:      387 (38.7%)
Draws:           276 (27.6%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Zahak_7.0
Elo pool : 2911
Zahak 6.0 : 2773.0
Zahak_7.0 : 2929.4
Difference : 156.4

Incredible progress with such a small NNUE based on only 58 million positions.

I suppose Zahak has a great future.
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 06, 2021 5:45 pm

Counter 4.0 : +48

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : Gauntlet Counter 4.0
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-counter.pgn:

No. Name         Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Counter 4.0 +353 =335 -312   *0  520.5  1000   52.0%
  2 Stash 31.0   +77  =88  -35   *0  121.0   200   60.5%
  3 Marvin 5.1   +69  =71  -60   *0  104.5   200   52.2%
  4 Winter 0.9   +66  =56  -78   *0   94.0   200   47.0%
  5 Drofa 3.2.0  +53  =66  -81   *0   86.0   200   43.0%
  6 Orion 0.8    +47  =54  -99   *0   74.0   200   37.0%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      333 (33.3%)
Black Wins:      332 (33.2%)
Draws:           335 (33.5%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Counter_4.0
Elo pool : 3101
Counter 3.9 : 3065.0
Counter_4.0 : 3113.2
Difference : 48.2
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 06, 2021 10:35 pm

Minic 3.14 : +6

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : Gauntlet Minic 3.14
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1200

Results from file gauntlet-minic.pgn:

No. Name        Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Minic 3.14 +370 =457 -373   *0  598.5  1200   49.9%
  2 Clover 2.4  +64  =81  -55   *0  104.5   200   52.2%
  3 Weiss 1.4   +71  =66  -63   *0  104.0   200   52.0%
  4 Seer 2.1.0  +61  =82  -57   *0  102.0   200   51.0%
  5 Stash 31.0  +68  =65  -67   *0  100.5   200   50.2%
  6 Wasp 4.50   +56  =82  -62   *0   97.0   200   48.5%
  7 Halogen 10  +53  =81  -66   *0   93.5   200   46.8%

Total Games:    1200
White Wins:      372 (31.0%)
Black Wins:      371 (30.9%)
Draws:           457 (38.1%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Minic_3.14
Elo pool : 3166
Minic 3.13 : 3159.0
Minic_3.14 : 3165.3
Difference : 6.3
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptySat Oct 09, 2021 9:12 pm

PART-ONE

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : Testing Stockfish-DEV 21-10-06
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-sf14-dev.pgn:

No. Name                 Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Stockfish 21-10-06  +556 =427  -17   *0  769.5  1000   77.0%
  2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5    +12 =149  -39   *0   86.5   200   43.2%
  3 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE   +1  =77 -122   *0   39.5   200   19.8%
  4 SlowChess 2.7         +1  =72 -127   *0   37.0   200   18.5%
  5 Koivisto 6.16         +1  =67 -132   *0   34.5   200   17.2%
  6 RubiChess 2.2         +2  =62 -136   *0   33.0   200   16.5%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      297 (29.7%)
Black Wins:      276 (27.6%)
Draws:           427 (42.7%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 3482 pool

   # PLAYER                 :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Stockfish 21-10-06     :  3667.3   769.5    1000    77
   2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5      :  3619.7    86.5     200    43
   3 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE    :  3421.7    39.5     200    20
   4 SlowChess 2.7          :  3407.5    37.0     200    19
   5 Koivisto 6.16          :  3392.6    34.5     200    17
   6 RubiChess 2.2          :  3383.2    33.0     200    17


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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptySun Oct 10, 2021 9:52 am

PART-TWO

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : Testing Stockfish-DEV 21-10-06 [part2]
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-sf14-dev2.pgn:

No. Name                Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Stockfish 21-10-06 +656 =335   -9   *0  823.5  1000   82.3%
  2 Komodo-Dragon 2      +5 =115  -80   *0   62.5   200   31.2%
  3 SlowChess 2.6        +2  =60 -138   *0   32.0   200   16.0%
  4 RubiChess 2.1        +1  =54 -145   *0   28.0   200   14.0%
  5 Koivisto 6.0-sse2    +0  =55 -145   *0   27.5   200   13.8%
  6 Ethereal 13-NNUE     +1  =51 -148   *0   26.5   200   13.2%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      345 (34.5%)
Black Wins:      320 (32.0%)
Draws:           335 (33.5%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 3444 pool

   # PLAYER                :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Stockfish 21-10-06    :  3677.0   823.5    1000    82
   2 Komodo-Dragon 2       :  3538.8    62.5     200    31
   3 SlowChess 2.6         :  3386.4    32.0     200    16
   4 RubiChess 2.1         :  3358.9    28.0     200    14
   5 Koivisto 6.0-sse2     :  3355.2    27.5     200    14
   6 Ethereal 13-NNUE      :  3347.7    26.5     200    13
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyTue Oct 19, 2021 5:19 pm

Gauntlet Berserk 6 : estimated +114 elo

Code:
Gambit Rating List
Running      : Gauntlet Berserk 6
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-berserk-6.pgn:

No. Name            Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Berserk 6      +364 =477 -159   *0  602.5  1000   60.2%
  2 Igel 3.0.5      +38 =102  -60   *0   89.0   200   44.5%
  3 Ethereal 12.75  +33 =107  -60   *0   86.5   200   43.2%
  4 Pedone 3.1      +34 =100  -66   *0   84.0   200   42.0%
  5 Komodo 11       +29  =86  -85   *0   72.0   200   36.0%
  6 Seer 2.3.0      +25  =82  -93   *0   66.0   200   33.0%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      259 (25.9%)
Black Wins:      264 (26.4%)
Draws:           477 (47.7%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Berserk_6
Elo pool : 3351
Berserk 4.5.0 : 3298.0
Berserk_6 : 3412.3
Difference : 114.3

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Elo pool : 3411

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Ed, did you think about implementing a little NN in Pro Deo? Amanj did it with less than 100M fens, Jay Honnold used 250M fens, and these small nets added more than 100 Elos to their engines. Benjamin, Pro Deo with a NN -- or several few nets like in SlowChess, a combination of nets and HCE could be a challenge and the next step.
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Ed, did you think about implementing a little NN in Pro Deo? Amanj did it with less than 100M fens, Jay Honnold used 250M fens, and these small nets added more than 100 Elos to their engines. Benjamin, Pro Deo with a NN -- or several few nets like in SlowChess, a combination of nets and HCE could be a challenge and the next step.

I don't have the right compiler for that. I have tried with the help of another programmer and the NPS dropped with a factor of 10.
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 20, 2021 9:13 am

Great second result for Berserk 6, scored a rating of 3414.

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Running      : gauntlet Berserk 6
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-berserk-6a.pgn:

No. Name               Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Berserk 6         +240 =528 -232   *0  504.0  1000   50.4%
  2 Stockfish 9        +55 =105  -40   *0  107.5   200   53.8%
  3 RubiChess 2.2      +45 =112  -43   *0  101.0   200   50.5%
  4 Komodo 12          +55  =88  -57   *0   99.0   200   49.5%
  5 SlowChess 2.6      +39 =113  -48   *0   95.5   200   47.8%
  6 Koivisto 6.0-sse2  +38 =110  -52   *0   93.0   200   46.5%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      220 (22.0%)
Black Wins:      252 (25.2%)
Draws:           528 (52.8%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 3411 pool

   # PLAYER               :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Stockfish 9          :  3439.7   107.5     200    54
   2 RubiChess 2.2        :  3416.8   101.0     200    51
   3 Berserk 6            :  3413.3   504.0    1000    50
   4 Komodo 12            :  3409.8    99.0     200    50
   5 SlowChess 2.6        :  3397.6    95.5     200    48
   6 Koivisto 6.0-sse2    :  3388.8    93.0     200    47
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 20, 2021 9:14 am

Current top-10

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   # PLAYER                 :  RATING  ERROR  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)  CFS(%)     W     D     L  D(%)
   1 Stockfish 21-10-06     :  3712.9   22.3  1593.0    2000    80      94  1212   762    26    38
   2 Komodo-Dragon 2.5      :  3648.2   17.7  1527.5    2200    69     100   998  1059   143    48
   3 Lc0 v28                :  3587.4   23.3   591.5    1000    59     100   335   513   152    51
   4 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE    :  3464.1    9.2  2049.0    4000    51     100  1101  1896  1003    47
   5 Koivisto 6.16          :  3452.3   10.2  1168.0    2600    45      92   536  1264   800    49
   6 SlowChess 2.7          :  3438.1   16.4  1177.0    2800    42      98   458  1438   904    51
   7 Berserk 6              :  3418.5   14.6  1106.5    2000    55      84   604  1005   391    50
   8 RubiChess 2.2          :  3412.6    8.4  1880.5    4200    45      98   876  2009  1315    48
   9 Igel 3.0.5             :  3363.4   12.5  1724.5    4500    38      57   682  2085  1733    46
  10 Pedone 3.1             :  3362.2   11.1  1942.5    4500    43      57   972  1941  1587    43
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 20, 2021 9:18 am

Berserk 5 : estimated elo gain +45

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Running      : Gauntlet Berserk 5
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1400

Results from file gauntlet-berserk-5.pgn:

No. Name            Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Berserk 5      +481 =655 -264   *0  808.5  1400   57.8%
  2 Komodo 11       +40 =109  -51   *0   94.5   200   47.2%
  3 Ethereal 12.00  +45  =98  -57   *0   94.0   200   47.0%
  4 Nemorino 6.00   +44  =96  -60   *0   92.0   200   46.0%
  5 Komodo 10       +47  =79  -74   *0   86.5   200   43.2%
  6 Pedone 3.0      +41  =88  -71   *0   85.0   200   42.5%
  7 Booot 6.5       +25  =97  -78   *0   73.5   200   36.8%
  8 rofChade 2.3    +22  =88  -90   *0   66.0   200   33.0%

Total Games:    1400
White Wins:      352 (25.1%)
Black Wins:      393 (28.1%)
Draws:           655 (46.8%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Berserk_5
Elo pool : 3295
Berserk 4.5.0 : 3298.0
Berserk_5 : 3343.5
Difference : 45.5
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 20, 2021 9:59 am

Estimated elo gain for Minic 3.16 : +32

Code:
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Running      : Gauntlet Minic 3.16
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1200

Results from file gauntlet-minic-316.pgn:

No. Name        Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Minic 3.16 +451 =421 -328   *0  661.5  1200   55.1%
  2 Clover 2.4  +68  =71  -61   *0  103.5   200   51.8%
  3 Seer 2.1.0  +54  =70  -76   *0   89.0   200   44.5%
  4 Stash 31.0  +59  =59  -82   *0   88.5   200   44.2%
  5 Wasp 4.50   +51  =74  -75   *0   88.0   200   44.0%
  6 Weiss 1.4   +52  =72  -76   *0   88.0   200   44.0%
  7 Halogen 10  +44  =75  -81   *0   81.5   200   40.8%

Total Games:    1200
White Wins:      398 (33.2%)
Black Wins:      381 (31.8%)
Draws:           421 (35.1%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Minic_3.16
Elo pool : 3168
Minic 3.14 : 3167.0
Minic_3.16 : 3199.0
Difference : 32.0
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 20, 2021 10:22 am

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matejst wrote:
Ed, did you think about implementing a little NN in Pro Deo? Amanj did it with less than 100M fens, Jay Honnold used 250M fens, and these small nets added more than 100 Elos to their engines. Benjamin, Pro Deo with a NN -- or several few nets like in SlowChess, a combination of nets and HCE could be a challenge and the next step.

I don't have the right compiler for that. I have tried with the help of another programmer and the NPS dropped with a factor of 10.

Could you still send me this engine for testing? I do not care about the raw strength, since I am analysing most of the time, or even playing, but I would very interested by the evaluation. My guess is that since Pro Deo has a slower search and his eval was optimised for lower depths, with more knowledge that it is usual today, the net should be quite strong.

I also feel that such an engine could look more like a real human.
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 20, 2021 5:34 pm

The NNUE implementation started in its simplest way, only for the 3-6 man positions. It did pretty well but as already said the NPS dropped with a factor of ~10. Compiler doesn't support the needed CPU extensions for modern computers. And so it ended.

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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyWed Oct 20, 2021 6:58 pm

Estimated elo gain for Colossus 2021b : +35

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Running      : Gauntlet Colossus 2021b
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1200

Results from file gauntlet-Colossus.pgn:

No. Name            Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Colossus 2021b +407 =337 -456   *0  575.5  1200   48.0%
  2 Nalwald 1.14    +96  =55  -49   *0  123.5   200   61.8%
  3 Zahak 6.0       +85  =58  -57   *0  114.0   200   57.0%
  4 ProDeo 3.1      +76  =54  -70   *0  103.0   200   51.5%
  5 Orion 07        +64  =64  -72   *0   96.0   200   48.0%
  6 Mantissa 2.5.0  +70  =51  -79   *0   95.5   200   47.8%
  7 Velvet 1.2.0    +65  =55  -80   *0   92.5   200   46.2%

Total Games:    1200
White Wins:      424 (35.3%)
Black Wins:      439 (36.6%)
Draws:           337 (28.1%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Colossus_2021b
Elo pool : 2767
Colossus 2021a : 2719.0
Colossus_2021b : 2754.5
Difference : 35.5
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyThu Oct 21, 2021 9:25 am

Estimated elo gain for Velvet 3.0.0 : +114

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Running      : Gauntlet Velvet 3.0.0
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-velvet.pgn:

No. Name           Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Velvet 3.0.0  +528 =240 -232   *0  648.0  1000   64.8%
  2 Asymptote 0.8  +67  =44  -89   *0   89.0   200   44.5%
  3 Cheese 2.2     +48  =40 -112   *0   68.0   200   34.0%
  4 Nemo 1.01      +39  =57 -104   *0   67.5   200   33.8%
  5 Drofa 3.0.0    +37  =54 -109   *0   64.0   200   32.0%
  6 BitGenie 8     +41  =45 -114   *0   63.5   200   31.8%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      379 (37.9%)
Black Wins:      381 (38.1%)
Draws:           240 (24.0%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Velvet_3.0.0
Elo pool : 2860
Velvet 2.0.0 : 2836.0
Velvet_3.0.0 : 2949.9
Difference : 113.9

Quite some surprise because no estimate elo gain was given by the author.
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Estimated elo gain for Zahak 8.0 : + 207

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Running      : Gauntlet Zahak 8.0
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000

Results from file gauntlet-zahak.pgn:

No. Name         Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Zahak 8.0   +252 =362 -386   *0  433.0  1000   43.3%
  2 Stockfish 5  +98  =56  -46   *0  126.0   200   63.0%
  3 Clover 2.4   +78  =82  -40   *0  119.0   200   59.5%
  4 Minic 3.14   +69  =79  -52   *0  108.5   200   54.2%
  5 Wasp 4.50    +77  =63  -60   *0  108.5   200   54.2%
  6 Halogen 10   +64  =82  -54   *0  105.0   200   52.5%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      285 (28.5%)
Black Wins:      353 (35.3%)
Draws:           362 (36.2%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated elo gain for Zahak_8.0
Elo pool : 3180
Zahak 7.0 : 2933.0
Zahak_8.0 : 3140.3
Difference : 207.3
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PostSubject: Re: Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results   Gambit Rating List - Gauntlet Results - Page 3 EmptyThu Oct 28, 2021 2:15 am

Koivisto 6.23 elo rating : 3458

Code:
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Running      : gauntlet Koivisto 6.23
Time Control : Time control : 40/120
Games        : 1000
 
Results from file gauntlet-koivisto.pgn:

No. Name                 Win Draw Loss Unf.  Score Games       %
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  1 Koivisto 6.23       +143 =533 -324   *0  409.5  1000   41.0%
  2 Stockfish 14        +130  =70   -0   *0  165.0   200   82.5%
  3 Komodo-Dragon 2      +83 =106  -11   *0  136.0   200   68.0%
  4 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE  +39 =127  -34   *0  102.5   200   51.2%
  5 SlowChess 2.7        +42 =111  -47   *0   97.5   200   48.8%
  6 RubiChess 2.2        +30 =119  -51   *0   89.5   200   44.8%

Total Games:    1000
White Wins:      259 (25.9%)
Black Wins:      208 (20.8%)
Draws:           533 (53.3%)
Unfinished:        0 (0.0%)

Estimated ratings for this elo 3519 pool

   # PLAYER                 :  RATING  POINTS  PLAYED   (%)
   1 Stockfish 14           :  3729.6   165.0     200    83
   2 Komodo-Dragon 2        :  3589.9   136.0     200    68
   3 Ethereal 13.25-NNUE    :  3466.6   102.5     200    51
   4 Koivisto 6.23          :  3457.9   409.5    1000    41
   5 SlowChess 2.7          :  3449.1    97.5     200    49
   6 RubiChess 2.2          :  3420.9    89.5     200    45

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