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 Stockfish 14 vs. Stockfish 13 (32 Threads) (TC=10m+5s) (1000 Games)

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PostSubject: Stockfish 14 vs. Stockfish 13 (32 Threads) (TC=10m+5s) (1000 Games)   Stockfish 14 vs. Stockfish 13 (32 Threads) (TC=10m+5s) (1000 Games) EmptySat Jul 03, 2021 3:03 pm



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Stockfish 14 Information.

Code:
Today, we have the pleasure to announce Stockfish 14.

As usual, downloads will be freely available at https://stockfishchess.org

The engine is now significantly stronger than just a few months ago,
and wins four times more game pairs than it loses against the previous
release version [0]. Stockfish 14 is now at least 400 Elo ahead of
Stockfish 7, a top engine in 2016 [1]. During the last five years,
Stockfish has thus gained about 80 Elo per year.

Stockfish 14 evaluates positions more accurately than Stockfish 13 as
a result of two major steps forward in defining and training the
efficiently updatable neural network (NNUE) that provides the evaluation
for positions.

First, the collaboration with the Leela Chess Zero team - announced
previously [2] - has come to fruition. The LCZero team has provided a
collection of billions of positions evaluated by Leela that we have
combined with billions of positions evaluated by Stockfish to train the
NNUE net that powers Stockfish 14. The fact that we could use and combine
these datasets freely was essential for the progress made and demonstrates
the power of open source and open data [3].

Second, the architecture of the NNUE network was significantly updated:
the new network is not only larger, but more importantly, it deals better
with large material imbalances and can specialize for multiple phases of
the game [4]. A new project, kick-started by Gary Linscott and
Tomasz Sobczyk, led to a GPU accelerated net trainer written in
pytorch.[5] This tool allows for training high-quality nets in a couple
of hours.

Finally, this release features some search refinements, minor bug
fixes and additional improvements. For example, Stockfish is now about
90 Elo stronger for chess960 (Fischer random chess) at short time control.

The Stockfish project builds on a thriving community of enthusiasts
(thanks everybody!) that contribute their expertise, time, and resources
to build a free and open-source chess engine that is robust, widely
available, and very strong. We invite our chess fans to join the fishtest
testing framework and programmers to contribute to the project on
github [6].

Stay safe and enjoy chess!

The Stockfish team

[0] https://tests.stockfishchess.org/test...
[1] https://nextchessmove.com/dev-builds
[2] https://stockfishchess.org/blog/2021/...
[3] https://lczero.org/blog/2021/06/the-i...
[4] https://github.com/official-stockfish...
[5] https://github.com/glinscott/nnue-pyt...
[6] https://stockfishchess.org/get-involved/
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Score of Stockfish 14 vs Stockfish 13 : 1 - 0 - 35 [0.514]
... Stockfish 14 playing White: 1 - 0 - 17 [0.528] 18
... Stockfish 14 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 18 [0.500] 18
... White vs Black: 1 - 0 - 35 [0.514] 36
Elo difference: 9.7 +/- 18.7, LOS: 84.1 %, DrawRatio: 97.2 %
36 of 1000 games finished.
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We are not used to that, a new Stockfish that at first glance only looks slightly better.
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Also started a SF14 vs SF13 match. Not for the GRL. Using 1749 Jeroen Noomen positions.

http://rebel13.nl/b/grl.htm

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Admin wrote:
We are not used to that, a new Stockfish that at first glance only looks slightly better.

Yes, and some are even losing their minds over it on my channel. Proclaiming Fishtesting infallibility+30 Elo.

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My testing has been pretty consistent. Showing little to no progress, and sometimes regression on the Stockfish DEV moving to SF 14. Depending on the time controls and cores used.

What is clear and I think other testings is showing the same. As you move away from faster time controls and 1 thread testing. There is little difference between SF 13 and SF 14.

The latest results.  

Score of Stockfish 14 vs Stockfish 13 : 1 - 0 - 65 [0.508]
...      Stockfish 14 playing White: 1 - 0 - 32  [0.515] 33
...      Stockfish 14 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 33  [0.500] 33
...      White vs Black: 1 - 0 - 65  [0.508] 66
Elo difference: 5.3 +/- 10.2, LOS: 84.1 %, DrawRatio: 98.5 %
66 of 1000 games finished.
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Admin wrote:
CEGT got +40 for SF14.

https://cegt.forumieren.com/t1527-testing-stockfish-14-0

I saw that result. Again fast time controls, and 1 thread testing only.

Sf 14 will have 1000 games to show its true form, with 32 threads and 10m+5s time controls. When playing SF 13. The results will be interesting.
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I find it boring. Engine x versus x+1

Testing of engines makes only sense if there is a variance of opponents
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Mclane wrote:
I find it boring. Engine x versus x+1

Testing of engines makes only sense if there is a variance of opponents

Sorry you find it borning. But many people do not find it boring.


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So you do it for the people who want to see it ?!
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Mclane wrote:
So you do it for the people who want to see it ?!

This match was a match request from my viewers. Players, time controls, and number of games.

And yes I do match request, along with my other engine tests. Under various conditions, and time controls. From Head to Head matches, and multi-player tournaments.
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Score of Stockfish 14 vs Stockfish 13 : 1 - 0 - 117 [0.504]
... Stockfish 14 playing White: 1 - 0 - 58 [0.508] 59
... Stockfish 14 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 59 [0.500] 59
... White vs Black: 1 - 0 - 117 [0.504] 118
Elo difference: 2.9 +/- 5.7, LOS: 84.1 %, DrawRatio: 99.2 %
118 of 1000 games finished.

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Some in the chess community do not like my results.  Rolling Eyes

dsvc saas
​The forum is right. Broadcaster Mark Young has received a sum of money from Komodo to deliberately make SF14 look a lot worse than reality.

dsvc saas
​This act is to intentionally tarnish the image of SF14 while boosting sales of Komodo.

Score of Stockfish 14 vs Stockfish 13 : 1 - 0 - 260 [0.502]
...      Stockfish 14 playing White: 1 - 0 - 130  [0.504] 131
...      Stockfish 14 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 130  [0.500] 130
...      White vs Black: 1 - 0 - 260  [0.502] 261
Elo difference: 1.3 +/- 2.6, LOS: 84.1 %, DrawRatio: 99.6 %
261 of 1000 games finished.

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If you don't like what is reported attack the reporter.
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Admin wrote:
If you don't like what is reported attack the reporter.

dsvc saas
​The forum is right. Broadcaster Mark Young has received a sum of money from Komodo to deliberately make SF14 look a lot worse than reality.



I just want to know one thing. Where is my money at Larry Kaufman!

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Score of Stockfish 14 vs Stockfish 13 : 1 - 0 - 406 [0.501]
... Stockfish 14 playing White: 1 - 0 - 203 [0.502] 204
... Stockfish 14 playing Black: 0 - 0 - 203 [0.500] 203
... White vs Black: 1 - 0 - 406 [0.501] 407
Elo difference: 0.9 +/- 1.7, LOS: 84.1 %, DrawRatio: 99.8 %
407 of 1000 games finished.
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is stockfish 14 really stronger then 13

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04Stockfish14_x64_avx2 [t8]          212,5/25000=====01===========1=· ·· ·· ·· ··===1====1111=11===11=1=1=1===110==11101011011=01=1110=1111111111111111=111=1=01111111101111111111111==111111=1111=111111=11111111=1111=111111111111111111111111111111111101111111111111111111111111111111111111111111110111111111111 25487,25 
05Dragon-64bit-avx2 [t8]           207,5/282=0===0=0====0===0=0===0=======0===· ·· ·· ·· ··11==1=====1=====1======1==0001=0====01==11=====11=1=====011===111=1=011110=1111==101=1100111111111111001110110111=11111010=1=11====1111111111111=10011=11=1111111111011111101111111101011111011111111111111111011111111111111111111111111111111111111111 24125,50 
06Komodo-14.1-64bit-bmi2 [t8, mcts]      203,5/283==0==0===0=00==00==00=0=00==0000=000==0=====· ·· ·· ·· ··=10=0=000====0=0001=======00=01==1=====1======1====0===1=11=1===11=1=10=1===110011==11=1111=1=111111111=1=1=11=1=1111=1=111111111=111=111=11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111=11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 22024,00 
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08Komodo-14.1-64bit-bmi2 [t8]         195,0/2820===0====00=00====10==0==0=0=0=0========0==1====1=111=======· ·· ·· ·· ··====1=1===010=1=1==========10=0==0=0===1011101=1=1=10101===0=11=1111110111111=11011=1==0=11==1=1=1=00111=11110111=011=110=11101=11=01011101101111111111111111111011111111=1110111111111111111101111111111111=11111111111111111 22314,00 
09Stockfish14_x64_avx2 [t8, no NNUE]     194,0/2500=0==0000==0=100======001==01110=1=0======11=====0====0=0· ·· ·· ·· ··===0===0=1=01=111111=010011====1=11=1===1=11==1=111111111111111111111=11111111011011111111=11=1=1111111111111111=10111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 21586,00 
10Stockfish_13_win_x64_avx2 [t8, ohne NNUE]  188,5/250=0==0=01===000000000=100101001===10==0=11=10===1=011===101====1===· ·· ·· ·· ··=1=0==111=1=11==101=1==1=1===111===11=01111011111111110=1==11111=10111111111111111111111=11011101111111011101111111111111111111111011111111111111111011111111111111111111111101111111111 21497,50 
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13Slow2.5 64-avx [t8]             183,0/2490000===0=0=0=0000=1000000000===000==1===0======10=1=1===101100===010=0=10==11=01==01· ·· ·· ·· ··1=11=11==1==1==1=1=111=11==1111=11===1=1==111111111111101=1=111=111101111111=1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 19332,00 
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15Chiron-5-64bit [t8]             163,0/250=000==0000000000=0110000=0=1000==01=0=01=000000==00=01010=0===0=0=000====0========00=====0==0===1====· ·· ·· ·· ··1=01==0=11111=0==1====0==1===11===11111111111==1111=1=1=1111111111111111111=1111111111111111111111111111=11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111 16245,25 
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23EngineDeepShredder13UCIx64 [t8]       103,0/282000=0000000=00000000=000000=0000=0000000=011000=000=0000000000=100=001==0=000000=00100=0001=10==0=0=00=0000100000=0===00=0=0=000=0====0011000=0=00===0000=0=10101=11001==11=0=0=1110100· ·· ·· ·· ··0010=01010000001011101010111010=110011000101110001011101100000=101=11101111111111101011101111110111 10110,50 
24Prodeo 3.1                 79,5/2490000000000000000000000000000000=00=00000000000000000010=00000000001000000=00=00=0=00000000=000000=00000000000=0000000000000=00=0000001===0=0000000=000000=001101=10· ·· ·· ·· ··==0=1==1001111==110=1=10=1011==0=1111===111011=1111111=0=0111=====11111011111111111111 5416,25 
25Prodeo YAT                 78,0/282000000000000=000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000=101000100000=00001000=00000000000000000000000000000000=000000000000=00000000000000000000000001000=00=00000000=000=0000000101111110==1=0==· ·· ·· ·· ··0110100110=0=1=10000==10111111=0===1=1=1=1==111=11=10111=01000110111111111111111111 5377,75 
26Zappa Mexico II x64 [t8]          70,5/28200=000000000000000=0000000000000000000001000000000000000000001000000100000010000000000000=00=00000=0=00000000==000=000000=0000=00000=00000010000=0000010=0000=00010000001==0==1000001000101010110000100101100· ·· ·· ·· ··01011111100000100110010110011010001000111101100100101001111101101110110011110 5726,25 
27Diepm 2.10 [t8]               66,0/2490000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000000000=000010=00000000000000=000000000000000000000=0000000000000000=0000==0000=000000000=000101===001=0=1=1=0=01010000· ·· ·· ·· ··1=1111111=01=0=1=1=0=10=011=0101101==11===1=11111111111111111111 3873,00 
28DeepGandalf7-64 [t2]            64,0/2500000000000000000000000000010001000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000=0000000000000=00000000=0000000001100101=01001111==0001111100=00000· ·· ·· ·· ··101=0011=111=111===01111=10011==11111=101011111111111111 3798,50 
29Delfi5                   61,0/2500000000000000000000000000000010000000000=0000000000000000000000000100000000000010=00=000000000000000000000000000=0000=00000=000000=000=00=0000=000000000000001101000==1=000010000001100110100=10=1010=110· ·· ·· ·· ··0=1=00=11=10101=1==1011=1=10=1=10=111111111111111 3868,75 
30Colossus2008b                59,5/28100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000=00010000000000000000000000000000000=00000000000000000000000000=000000000000=000000000=0000000=000000000000000000=0000000111010001===0001=1===0=0=0011001011=0=0=1=0=000=01=0=11=· ·· ·· ·· ··10=0=010111==0111=1=111==00=1=111111111111 3540,50 
31GreKo1.1 psq                54,5/2500000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000000000001000=0=0000=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000=00000=0000000000000000000=00001111100=00000=0==00101110001=100=00===1000=010101=1=10· ·· ·· ·· ··1==01==0=011=0=1=1=1111111111111111 3242,50 
32MadChess.Engine3              49,5/25000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000000=0000000000000000000000000000010000000000000000000=000000000000=010=000000=1=10=00=0100100111010010000=0110=0==011000==10==10==· ·· ·· ·· ··1=101=1111001011111111=11111 2650,75 
33Chinito 3.5                 43,0/250000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000=000000000000000000000000000000000000001000000000====000=10101101011==00===00==00000=0=01000=0=01=100=10=010=0· ·· ·· ·· ··11=1101111111111=1111 2046,25 
34Loki3.0.0-x64 [t8]             37,5/2500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000=000000000000000000000000000=00000000000000000000000000=0000000000000000000000=0000000000000000010000000000010=0000011100100000001000=0000000=0101=0=01=000==11==0=0=00000110100=0010· ·· ·· ·· ··1=1=1111111111 1945,50 
35Gerbil2                   14,5/25000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001000100000000000000000100010000000000000000000000000=000000000000000000000000000=0=000· ·· ·· ·· ··1111111 850,25 
36Tscp181                   5,0/2500000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010000000000000000001100001000000000000000000000000000000000000=0000000=000000000000000000· ·· ·· ·· ·· 360,75 


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Beginn des Turniers: 2021.03.12, 16:40:14
Letzte Aktualisierung: 2021.07.13, 18:22:59
Ort/ Land: DESKTOP-D269HUC, Deutschland
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/5
Hardware: AMD Ryzen 9 3950X mit Nvidia Geforce RTX 2070 mit 8 GB Speicher
Betriebssystem: Windows 10 Enterprise Professional (Build 9200)
PGN-Datei: Ryzen9 3950x .pgn
Tabelle erstellt mit: Arena 2.0.1




ok some games to go. but it will need to win.
btw good results of ethereal
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On my ryzen 5 3600 with 6 cores each it is even worse.
Stockfish 13 has 122/148
While stockfish 14 only 116,5 from 148.

Maybe the release candidate is not the big progress.
Or the nets integrated is not helping much.

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Thanks Mclane for your results.
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I believe it is the flawed testing of fishtest that is to blame for this debacle!
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Score of Stockfish 14 vs Stockfish 13 : 2 - 0 - 710 [0.501]
... Stockfish 14 playing White: 1 - 0 - 355 [0.501] 356
... Stockfish 14 playing Black: 1 - 0 - 355 [0.501] 356
... White vs Black: 1 - 1 - 710 [0.500] 712
Elo difference: 1.0 +/- 1.3, LOS: 92.1 %, DrawRatio: 99.7 %
712 of 1000 games finished.
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The stream and match have now been playing for 332 hours nonstop. No computer issues to report, and my new 4K internet connecting has been stable without any loss of connection for over 332 hours.
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Score of Stockfish 14 vs Stockfish 13 : 2 - 0 - 812 [0.501]
... Stockfish 14 playing White: 1 - 0 - 406 [0.501] 407
... Stockfish 14 playing Black: 1 - 0 - 406 [0.501] 407
... White vs Black: 1 - 1 - 812 [0.500] 814
Elo difference: 0.9 +/- 1.2, LOS: 92.1 %, DrawRatio: 99.8 %
814 of 1000 games finished.
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End of Match.

Score of Stockfish 14 vs Stockfish 13 : 3 - 0 - 997 [0.501]
... Stockfish 14 playing White: 2 - 0 - 498 [0.502] 500
... Stockfish 14 playing Black: 1 - 0 - 499 [0.501] 500
... White vs Black: 2 - 1 - 997 [0.500] 1000
Elo difference: 1.0 +/- 1.2, LOS: 95.8 %, DrawRatio: 99.7 %
1000 of 1000 games finished.
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Thank you all for watching.
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