Worlds Strongest Chess Engines

Here We Go Citizens...What are the Worlds Strongest Chess Engines?
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I voted for Stockfish NNUE but I haven't done any testing - I'm just going by what I've read.

Lc0

Wow.. You got me.. I forgot all about LC0...by the way LC0 (cpu) is testing about 2700 (tops) in my New Engines Swiss tourney just completed yesterday LC0 v0.26.3...LC0 is still improving each and every day though...No Doubts!

supersharp77 wrote:

Wow.. You got me.. I forgot all about LC0...by the way LC0 (cpu) is testing about 2700 (tops) in my New Engines Swiss tourney just completed yesterday LC0 v0.26.3...LC0 is still improving each and every day though...No Doubts!  

I do only have a 6 core Xeon. But neither stockfish 12 nor 12 nnue
Can beat my Nvidia 2070.

And the Nvidia 2070 is NOT the best card.
There are more expensive versions with more power. But on my machine Stockfish is beaten.

Mclane wrote:

supersharp77 wrote:

Wow.. You got me.. I forgot all about LC0...by the way LC0 (cpu) is testing about 2700 (tops) in my New Engines Swiss tourney just completed yesterday LC0 v0.26.3...LC0 is still improving each and every day though...No Doubts!  

I do only have a 6 core Xeon. But neither stockfish 12 nor 12 nnue
Can beat my Nvidia 2070.

And the Nvidia 2070 is NOT the best card.
There are more expensive versions with more power. But on my machine Stockfish is beaten.

I test only apples with apples and oranges with oranges...LC0 needs calculation help only available on a GPU setup.....On CPU LC0 is only a above average engine...I will say this for LC0 it plays quite well positionally in certain positions but fails in tactics, late middlegames and endings..
Here Is the question..How can a engine looking only 7-10 half ply deep out play chess engines that normally reach 25-35 half ply deep on a
regular basis?

My LC0 makes very few NPS related to cpu engines.
IMO the graphic card must be similar Strong like the cpu.

Right now I can not say who is the strongest for sure. Dragon or Stockfish on my system. So I voted for Dragon. And like some have said. Lc0 is missing from the list, but could be the best depending on hardware.

And strongest is not always best. I like Dragon as it seems as good as Stockfish. But with many more options you can make to the engine. I like very much. Nice work Komodo team.

mwyoung wrote:

And strongest is not always best.

LC0 is good to watch, but probably too strong to be fun to play against. For me, weaker engines are more fun, and nothing has ever been more fun to play against than CS-Tal. "Most fun engine" would be a nice poll!

If you are including Stockfish derivatives like Sugar, Eman, and Raubfisch, then the likes of Crystal, Shashchess and Brainlearn should be included in the list as well.

TheSelfImprover wrote:

mwyoung wrote:

And strongest is not always best.

LC0 is good to watch, but probably too strong to be fun to play against. For me, weaker engines are more fun, and nothing has ever been more fun to play against than CS-Tal. "Most fun engine" would be a nice poll!

The good thing about Lc0 is that let Lc0 run on a CPU with a smaller net and it becomes a weak enough engine to play against.

Theresa May wrote:

If you are including Stockfish derivatives like Sugar, Eman, and Raubfisch, then the likes of Crystal, Shashchess and Brainlearn should be included in the list as well.

Well This "Poll" only allows for 10 columns so of course some engines would be left out Like Minic and Eman and Crystal...and Brainlearn....Brainlearn plays strong and tests well no doubts... but not quite at the very tip top
Eman did quite well in the 2020 KO champs until the last 64 then seemed to fizzle out (probably because it can't be any Stronger than SF Dev itself cause it's a clone) ditto for the extremely strong Raubfisch....Raubfisch (2) and Eman (2-3) did make the top 64 in the KO Champs 2020...