Larry

I noticed Larry posted this at Talkchess.

Larry Kaufman wrote:

Since Rebel played several matches with strong GMs at standard time controls around the turn of the century, performing a bit below 2700 I would estimate if we rate them all together, my question is this: What FIDE rating would you expect "Benjamin" to earn in similar matches now, running on a typical i7 (say the reference hardware for CCRL), given that Benjamin is an improved version of those older engines and the hardware is much better now (even if perhaps some of those old Rebels ran on 2 or even 4 threads for those matches, I don't have that info)? How much better is Benjamin, and how much better is the hardware (allowing for Benjamin using only one thread)? This would help determine the human equivalent (at 40 moves in two hours) of the CCRL ratings of engines in the ballpark of 2700. You would probably be the best person to make this judgment.

Since I no longer post there but want to answer Larry anyway - Rebel in 2003 (IIRC on an AMD 450 MHz PC) played 4 games at tournament time control (40/2h) against GM Loek van Wely then rated 2700+ and won 2, lost 2, a tie. I remember the games very well, all 4 were decided notable on attacking the King, the specialty of the human, that was a new experience for me.

Also the first tournament game against Anand in 1998 Rebel had a winning position attacking the King but failed to cash a full point missing a simple continuation due to the lack of depth, something Benjamin sees instantly. Instead Rebel decided to enter the endgame (with material advantage) too early which Anand brilliantly defended into a draw.

It's hard to make a prediction, but for an educated guess, I doubt GM's rated 2750 will have a chance in a 6 game match, and I wouldn't be surprised if Benjamin would win a 6 game match against 2800 players.

adminx wrote:

<iframe style='border: 0;' width='900px' height='600px' src='https://share.chessbase.com/SharedGames/frame/?p=8mFMpQnvcDTR1Hm6PP6cyFwuSUYeigWVDsMjVNMfPmvxUXdbIGQd2763RwW6sP6H'></iframe>

Can you explain what to do with the information? There is only non-clickable HTML text.

Hi Ed,

Maybe a pop up blocker or something. This is what I thought you would see:

https://i.ibb.co/2yHKyM5/2020-11-27-3-54-34.png

Basically a PGN viewer with the five games you mentioned embedded.

adminx wrote:

Hi Ed,

Maybe a pop up blocker or something. This is what I thought you would see:

https://i.ibb.co/2yHKyM5/2020-11-27-3-54-34.png

I see your goal now, trying to display the Anand - Rebel 1998 game.

https://lichess.org/BogAgkzN#65

This is the critical position, Rebel played 33..Bxb2+, should have been 33..Qe6, see Stockfish analysis.

adminx wrote:

Hi Ed,

Maybe a pop up blocker or something. This is what I thought you would see:

https://i.ibb.co/2yHKyM5/2020-11-27-3-54-34.png

Basically a PGN viewer with the five games you mentioned embedded.

Sooner or later I should install the script for [pgn] game [/pgn].

adminx wrote:

Hi Ed,

Maybe a pop up blocker or something. This is what I thought you would see:

https://i.ibb.co/2yHKyM5/2020-11-27-3-54-34.png

Basically a PGN viewer with the five games you mentioned embedded.

This is not a blocker: the markup you are trying to use is for an iFrame - but this is a forum, not a website, so you cannot just add an iFrame.

An image must be wrapped in IMG markup (use the image button (if your image is not online already, use the Host Image buttom)):

adminx wrote:

Hi Ed,

Maybe a pop up blocker or something. This is what I thought you would see:

https://i.ibb.co/2yHKyM5/2020-11-27-3-54-34.png

Basically a PGN viewer with the five games you mentioned embedded.

I enabled HTML code in my profile, now it works.

@ TheSelfImprover, I was not posting a image, It's HTML code for clicking thru the game, and the code does work on the forum as shown from the image. I tested it.

I guess it's just as Ed said you need to enable it in your profile.

Were these games played by Rebel Century (2000) version which Ed has as UCI on his site? Haven't used it for a while, but somewhat inspired now.

I believe the GM Loek van Wely game were (Rebel Century 4.0)

Do we know which version of Century the Rebel Century (2000) on this page is?

@Ed?

adminx wrote:

I believe the GM Loek van Wely game were (Rebel Century 4.0)

Yes.

http://rebel.nl/reb-wely.htm

Brendan wrote:

Do we know which version of Century the Rebel Century (2000) on this page is?

@Ed?

Version 4.

http://rebel13.nl/rebel13/rebel%2013.html

Admin wrote:

Brendan wrote:

Do we know which version of Century the Rebel Century (2000) on this page is?

@Ed?

Version 4.

http://rebel13.nl/rebel13/rebel%2013.html

Thanks Ed, that's very cool.

I will enter Rebel Century (2000) in my GUI as Rebel Century 4.0.

Testing against some of my ProDeo 2.6 personalities before bed.