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PostSubject: Rebel 16.2 beta   Rebel 16.2 beta EmptyTue Feb 14, 2023 1:22 pm

Got this from Thorsten who is testing the beta version. No considerable elo changes or it must be the time control and/or permanent brain. First test, I understand more is coming.

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    Motor                                    Punkte    
01: Dragon-3.1-64bit-avx2 [t4]               118,5/156
02: Ethereal-14.00-pext-avx2 [t4]            117,0/156
03: Rebel-16.2 [t4]                          117,0/156
04: Dragon-2.5-64bit-avx2 [t4, mcts]         116,5/156
05: Berserk-9-x64-avx2-pext [t4]             114,5/156
06: Stockfish_15_x64_avx2 [t4]               114,0/156
07: Dragon-3.1-64bit-avx2 [t4, mcts]         113,0/156
08: Stockfish15.1-avx2 [t4]                  112,5/156
09: Rebel 16 [t4, rebel.bin]                 111,5/156
10: Kayra 1.5 Attack-avx2 [t4]               109,5/156
11: Lc0 0.29.0 rc1 radeon gpu dx12 [753723]  106,0/156
12: Ethereal-13.75-pext-avx2 [t4]            105,5/156
13: Dragon-2.5-64bit-avx2 [t4]               104,5/156
14: Rebel-16a [t4]                           104,5/156
15: RubiChess20220813_64-avx2 [t4, nnue]     100,0/156
16: Lc0 0.28.2 radeon gpu dx12 [752187]      98,5/156  
17: Rebel-15.1a-avx2 [t4, rebel.bin]         97,0/156  
18: Uralochka3.38c-avx2 [t4]                 93,0/156  
19: Rebel-15.1-avx2 [t4]                     92,0/156  
20: Wasp600-win-avx [t4]                     89,0/156  
21: DeepHiarcs15.0 [t4]                      87,0/156  
22: Komodo-14.1-64bit [t4, mcts]             85,0/156  
23: Rebel-16.1 [t4]                          78,0/156  
24: Booot7 [t4]                              77,0/156  
25: Komodo-14.1-64bit [t4]                   76,0/156  
26: Wasp550-windows-avx [t4]                 76,0/156  
27: Chiron-5-64bit [t4]                      64,0/156  
28: Lc0 0.29.0 rc1 radeon gpu dx12 [j94-130] 62,0/156  
29: Booot6 [t4]                              58,5/156  
30: Equinox 3.30-x64 [t4]                    51,0/156  
31: DeepShredder13UCIx64 [t4, buffer6]       46,5/156  
32: Rodent-iv-x64 [t4]                       45,5/156  
33: Deep Rybka 4.1 x64 [t4]                  45,5/156  
34: CSTal3 5'                                41,0/156  
35: Rodent-iv-x64 [t4, tal]                  27,0/156  
36: Inanis 1.1.1 win64 [t4]                  19,5/156  
37: Colossus2022a [t4]                       15,5/156  
38: Nawito-22.07-winx64                      11,5/156  
39: Delfi                                    10,5/156  
40: CT800_V1.44_x64                          9,0/156  

3120 Partien gespielt / Turnier beendet
Name des Turniers: Ryzen7 5700
Ort/ Land: LAPTOP-JTQQP8M7, Deutschland
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/4
Hardware: AMD Ryzen 7 5700U with Radeon Graphics  mit 4.096 MB Speicher

All engines 4 cores and permanent brain ON.

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PostSubject: Re: Rebel 16.2 beta   Rebel 16.2 beta EmptyWed Feb 15, 2023 3:37 am

Very soon all the Neural Net chess engines will have the same Elo rating. In my test the top 3 chess engines have a Elo difference of 7 Elo.  lol!

Hardware does not matter much. Over threading the NN with too many threads. Does seem to have a negative impact on performance. Most likely caused by the programmers not testing the engines with huge thread loading. And correcting the issues.

Code:
Result:
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  #  name                    games            wins           draws          losses           score    elo    +    -
  1. Stockfish dev-20230203    266       15 100.0%      251 100.0%          0 0.0%     140.5 52.8%   3829   22   22
  2. Dragon 3.2                267       10 100.0%      254 100.0%        3 100.0%     137.0 51.3%   3824   22   22
  3. Lc0 v0.29.0 Net 809106    267        7 100.0%      258 100.0%        2 100.0%     136.0 50.9%   3822   22   22
  4. Berserk 10                266        1 100.0%      237 100.0%       28 100.0%     119.5 44.9%   3800   22   22

Cross table:
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  #  name                               score   games         1         2         3         4
  1. Stockfish dev-20230203       140.5 52.8%     266         x      45.5      45.5      49.5
  2. Dragon 3.2                   137.0 51.3%     267      43.5         x      44.5      49.0
  3. Lc0 v0.29.0 Net 809106       136.0 50.9%     267      43.5      44.5         x      48.0
  4. Berserk 10                   119.5 44.9%     266      38.5      40.0      41.0         x

Tech:
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Tech (average nodes, depths, time/m per move, others per game), counted for computing moves only, ignored moves with zero nodes:
  #  name                      nodes/m         NPS  depth/m   time/m    moves     time
  1. Stockfish dev-20230203    163516K    15192679     56.3     10.8     64.7    696.5
  2. Dragon 3.2                171563K    15896455     44.4     10.8     65.3    705.2
  3. Lc0 v0.29.0 Net 809106       486K       47783     11.2     10.2     74.0    752.4
  4. Berserk 10                244087K    24187428     33.3     10.1     74.8    754.9
     all ---                   140277K    13768865     35.4     10.4     69.7    727.3
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