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PostSubject: The Germans are back.   The Germans are back. EmptyTue Nov 24, 2020 9:05 pm

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The Germans Are Back!

Break out the Wagner, folks … the Germans are back! No, not the warm, fuzzy, pussified, peace-loving, post-war Germans … the Germans! You know the ones I mean. The “I didn’t know where the trains were going” Germans. The “I was just following orders” Germans. The other Germans.

Yeah … those Germans.

In case you missed it, on November 18, the German parliament passed a law, the so-called “Infection Protection Act” (“Das Infektionsschutzgesetz” in German) formally granting the government the authority to issue whatever edicts it wants under the guise of protecting the public health. The government has been doing this anyway — ordering lockdowns, curfews, travel bans, banning demonstrations, raiding homes and businesses, ordering everyone to wear medical masks, harassing and arresting dissidents, etc. — but now it has been “legitimized” by the Bundestag, enshrined into law, and presumably stamped with one of those intricate official stamps that German bureaucrats like to stamp things with.

Now, this “Infection Protection Act,” which was rushed through the parliament, is not in any way comparable to the “Enabling Act of 1933,” which formally granted the government the authority to issue whatever edicts it wanted under the guise of remedying the distress of the people. Yes, I realize that sounds quite similar, but, according to the government and the German media, there is no absolutely equivalence whatsoever, and anyone who suggests there is is “a far-right AfD extremist,” “a neo-Nazi conspiracy theorist,” or “an anti-vax esotericist,” or whatever.

As the Protection Act was being legitimized (i.e., the current one, not the one in 1933), tens of thousands of anti-totalitarian protesters gathered in the streets, many of them carrying copies of the Grundgesetz (i.e., the constitution of the Federal Republic of Germany), which the parliament had just abrogated. They were met by thousands of riot police, who declared the demonstration “illegal” (because many of the protesters were not wearing masks), beat up and arrested hundreds of them, and then hosed down the rest with water cannons.

The German media — which are totally objective, and not at all like Goebbels’ Ministry of Propaganda in the Nazi era — dutifully reminded the German public that these protesters were all “Corona Deniers,” “far-right extremists,” “conspiracy theorists,” “anti-vaxxers,” “neo-Nazis,” and so on, so they probably got what they deserved. Also, a spokesperson for the Berlin police (who bear absolutely no resemblance to the Gestapo, or the Stasi, or any other notorious official-ideology-enforcing goons) pointed out that their water cannons were only being used to “irrigate” the protesters (i.e., not being aimed directly at them) because there were so many “Corona Denier” children in their ranks.

According to the government, the German media, the intelligentsia, and, basically, anyone in public life who wants to remain there, these “Corona Deniers” are becoming a problem. They are spreading baseless “conspiracy theories” that are threatening the public health and causing distress to the German people (e.g., that the vast majority of those infected suffer only mild to moderate flu symptoms or, more commonly, no symptoms at all, and that over 99.7% survive). They are walking around without medical-looking masks, which is making a mockery of the government and media’s efforts to convince the public that they are under attack by an apocalyptic plague. They are posting scientific facts on the Internet. They are staging these protests and otherwise challenging the government’s right to declare a “health emergency,” suspend the German constitution indefinitely, and rule society by decree and force.

Despite the German government and media’s efforts to demonize anyone not obediently parroting the official “New Normal” narrative as a “dangerous neo-Nazi Corona Denier,” the “Corona Denialism” movement is growing, not just in Germany, but all throughout Europe. Clearly, the time is coming for Germany to take stronger measures against this threat. The health of the Vater … uh, the nation, is at stake! Fortunately, this “Infection Protection Act” will provide the government with the authority it needs to conceive and carry out some kind of … well, you know, solution. Allowing these degenerate anti-social deviants to run around challenging the German government’s absolute power is not an option, not in a time of national health emergency! These “Nazi-sympathizing Corona Deniers” must be rooted out and dealt with, mercilessly!

I’m not privy to the details, of course, but, it being Germany, I imagine some sort of Special Task Force has been set up to efficiently deal with the “Corona Denier Problem.” Steps are clearly already being taken. Alternative media outlets are being deplatformed (because, according the media, they are “Querfront magazines”). In April, a well-known dissident lawyer was forcibly committed to a psychiatric ward (but the authorities and the media assured us that it had nothing to do with her dissident views, or with the lawsuits she was filing against the government; she just coincidentally became completely paranoid). Heavily-armed police are arresting YouTubers (although it isn’t clear exactly what for, as the authorities have released no details and the mainstream media is not reporting it).

In the run-up to the 29 August demonstration, at which the government granted some neo-Nazis de-facto permission to “storm the Reichstag,” so that the media could film it and discredit the real protest, one German politician went so far as to call for “Corona Deniers” to be deported … presumably on trains, somewhere to the east.

But seriously, I don’t mean to pick on the Germans. I love the Germans. I live in Germany. And they’re hardly the only ones implementing the new pathologized totalitarianism. It’s just that, given their not-too-distant history, it is rather depressing, and more than a little frightening, to watch as Germany is once again transformed into a totalitarian state, where the police are hunting down the mask-less on the streets, raiding restaurants, bars, and people’s homes, where goose-stepping little Good German citizens are peering into the windows of Yoga studios to see if they are violating “social distancing rules,” where I can’t take a walk or shop for groceries without being surrounded by hostile, glaring, sometimes verbally-abusive Germans, who are infuriated that I’m not wearing a mask, and otherwise mindlessly following orders, and who robotically remind me, “Es ist Pflicht! Es ist Pflicht!”

Yes, I am fully aware that it is “Pflicht.” If I had any doubt as to whether it was “Pflicht,” the Berlin Senat cleared that up when they commissioned and ran this charming advert instructing me to fuck myself if I don’t want to follow their “Corona orders” and profess my belief in their new Big Lie.

And OK, before the Literalist Society starts flooding me with outraged emails, no, I’m not calling these Germans “Nazis.” I am calling them “totalitarians.” Which, at this point, given everything we know, if you’re still pretending that this coronavirus in any way warrants the increasingly ridiculous “emergency measures” we are being subjected to, I’m sorry, but that is what you are.

You may not believe that is what you are … totalitarians never do, not until it is far too late.

It functions like a cult, totalitarianism. It creeps up on you, little by little, little lie by little lie, accommodation by accommodation, rationalization by rationalization … until one day you find yourself taking orders from some twisted little narcissistic nihilist on a mission to remake the entire world. You don’t surrender to it all at once. You do it over the course of weeks and months. Imperceptibly, it becomes your reality. You do not recognize that you are in it, because everything you see is part of it, and everyone you know is in it … except for the others, who are not part of it. The “deniers.” The “deviants.” The “foreigners.” The “strangers.” The “Covidiots.” The “virus spreaders.”

See, although the narratives and symbols may change, totalitarianism is totalitarianism. It doesn’t really matter which uniform it wears, or which language it speaks … it is the same abomination. It is an idol, a simulacrum of the hubris of man, formed from the clay of the minds of the masses by megalomaniacal spiritual cripples who want to exterminate what they cannot control. And what they want to control is always everything. Everything that reminds them of their weakness and their shame. You. Me. Society. The world. Laughter. Love. Honor. Faith. The past. The future. Life. Death. Everything that will not obey them.

Unfortunately, once this kind of thing gets started, and reaches the stage we are currently experiencing, more often than not, it does not stop, not until cities lie in ruins or fields are littered with human skulls. It might take us ten or twelve years to get there, but, make no mistake, that’s where we’re headed, where totalitarianism is always headed … if you don’t believe me, just ask the Germans.

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CJ Hopkins
November 22, 2020
Photo: Poland, 1939. CC 3.0

https://consentfactory.org/2020/11/22/the-germans-are-back/

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PostSubject: Re: The Germans are back.   The Germans are back. EmptyTue Nov 24, 2020 9:27 pm

Some people do not realize that we have a pandemie and people die. In those countries with a populistic right wing government ignoring the pandemie , more people die then in the countries who try to reduce the deaths.

The Germans who go on the streets against the virus, are right wing people from different kind of areas in the society,
Esoteric right wings , conspiracy people , Neonazis, AFD (Right wing party) , pandemie Denier, antisemites, they relate themselves with Anne Frank or Sophie Scholl and call their demonstrations resistance against government.

Completely nuts .

Anne Frank and Sophie Scholl fought racism, they were victims of fascism.
But these people, they do not fight a totalitarian state. They fight a virus.
By ignoring it , by stopping the government to prevent new infections,


Instead of wearing masks, they demonstrate in big numbers without using them.

These people are a shame,
They believe in antisemitic conspiracies.
Or that the virus is not existing,
Or the people who die are not existing,


Not the Germans or this law is the problem.
The problem are these people.

These people are a disgrace for any human who uses his brain to think, watch them: https://youtu.be/bCaTX7gd32E


These demonstrations are an attractor for nuts People.
They are completely triggered by this.

Normally nobody listens to them.
But on these demonstrations, they can spit out their nonsense and feel accepted by the others.
Of course another illusion, but it is what they need like a drug.

They shout “resistance”.
But what is resistance in a democracy ?
Resistance makes sense in Russia, Belarus , North Korea, China or turkey,
Resistance against a dictator, against an almighty fascistic government, but in a democracy resistance against the FDGO means terrorism against the GG and the values of the FDGO.

Some speak it out: they want the BRD destroyed. Some want the Kaiser back. Others the NSDAP.

They argue that the others are fascists because they do not allow right wing and Neonazis and fascists to freely speak out their propaganda fake news !
So they are fascists, and call the others fascists because they do not allow them to speak out their fascistic ideology.


Without democracy they could not even speak out their right wing propaganda.
Because in a totalitarian state, for god sake we have now democracy, they would end in the ovens before they could go onto the streets demonstrate.

So . Instead of beeing victims, they are perpetrators.

It was their own ideology who invented the KZs and the ovens to burn people with different opinion.

THEIR ideology.
And now they can demonstrate against a virus on the streets and call the society who allows them to do so, fascistic.

These guys are really the dirt on the ground of lake.

“UNICEF eats the children and tortures them” (QAnon symbolism)


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PostSubject: Re: The Germans are back.   The Germans are back. EmptyTue Nov 24, 2020 9:48 pm

Sorry, I disagree.
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PostSubject: Re: The Germans are back.   The Germans are back. EmptyTue Nov 24, 2020 9:52 pm

Yes, and ?!
These people are nuts.
Their whole life they were treated as shit and dirt because they followed right wing ideology.
And somebody who follows neo Nazi dirt in Germany will not succeed with his bullshit.
And now in corona times they go on the streets and speak out their dirt.
And ?

These are Ill people.
They could claim that they believe in god or have seen ufos,
It would not matter .
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PostSubject: Re: The Germans are back.   The Germans are back. EmptySat Nov 28, 2020 12:09 am

Anton wrote:
The Germans are back. Nazis-marching-1939-cc-30

The Germans Are Back!

Break out the Wagner, folks … the Germans are back! No, not the warm, fuzzy, pussified, peace-loving, post-war Germans … the Germans! You know the ones I mean. The “I didn’t know where the trains were going” Germans. The “I was just following orders” Germans. The other Germans.

Yeah … those Germans.


Witty article. I am mostly for respecting the lockdown recommendations, but seeing how all this indeed institutionally degenerates in many cases to sheer up-down power ladder totalitarianism, especially in the most "politically correct" and mainstream EU countries like Germany, is scary. How little time is needed for the "national emergency" to dissolve all elements of functional democracy. Only a year ago one sufficiently naive would say that German democracy is so robust that for foreseeable future it has no any problems. Only those who can read into modern German psyche suspected that the foundations of the apparent German social libertarianism are shaky, that the exacerbated "political correctness" and aspiration towards normative mainstream can easily degenerate, and again sooner in Germany than in several other European places. Sure, Germans are varied people, I am talking of societal level.
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PostSubject: Re: The Germans are back.   The Germans are back. EmptyThu Dec 03, 2020 5:46 pm

Anton wrote:
The government has been doing this anyway — ordering lockdowns, curfews, travel bans, banning demonstrations, raiding homes and businesses, ordering everyone to wear medical masks, harassing and arresting dissidents, etc. — but now it has been “legitimized” by the Bundestag, enshrined into law, and presumably stamped with one of those intricate official stamps that German bureaucrats like to stamp things with.
No wearing of medical masks, quite to the contrary. In fact in March there was quite a campaign how we were +not+ supposed to be wearing medical masks for fear they might be missing elsewhere - they even invented a new word: "Alltagsmasken". So this is what Germans wear - to everyone's surprise they were even somewhat useful.
The article is pretty useless as it doesn't even cover the reasons for the Bundestag "enshrining" anything into law in this hasty way. German courts repeatedly decided that certain measures were to be cancelled as they were not covered by anything resembling a decent law. E.g . local gouverment ( in this case the Berlin senat) forbid a demonstration by some ( a few thousand) people who believe that Corona is a scam, as they thought it was likely they wouldn't be wearing masks and/or keeping their distance. The court judged that this was illegal, as this was not the mildest possible decision ( quite true) . So the demonstration was allowed, and thousands of policemen were activated to tell people to wear masks and keep their distance. People didn't oblige ( quite as expected), and +then+ the demonstration was cancelled ( I don't want to even +think+ about the amount of money this one came up to ..).
But if this is somehow supposed to be a German topic: how do other European countries deal with this problem? France and Great Britain e.g. have been putting up much harsher rules than Germany has - are gouvernments just more powerful there? Or do citizens oblige better than Germans? Please tell me.
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PostSubject: Re: The Germans are back.   The Germans are back. EmptyThu Dec 03, 2020 11:21 pm

Peter Berger wrote:
France and Great Britain e.g. have been putting up much harsher rules than Germany has - are governments just more powerful there? Or do citizens oblige better than Germans? Please tell me.


I haven't read this thread in full, but I think the joke is supposed to be that curtailing civil liberties is funny in relation to Germany because of the 12 year period of Nazism in the 20th century, whereas it's not funny in relation to other countries.

Stupid though it sounds, the thing I miss is going to the pub, having a drink, and exchanging banter as we watch the football. Sometimes, one just presumes that many parts of life are always going to be there - but they're not.
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