Curious how much elo remains from the +100 against version 1.0
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:24 pm
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:32 pm
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Match Benjamin 1.1 - ProDeo 3.1 [8-moves.pgn] Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % --------------------------------------------------------- 1 ProDeo 3.1 +253 =497 -250 *0 501.5 1000 50.1% 2 Benjamin 1.1 +250 =497 -253 *0 498.5 1000 49.9%
I am flabbergasted, by chance I created an aggressive engine without elo loss
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Sun Oct 03, 2021 6:01 pm
Admin wrote:
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Match Benjamin 1.1 - ProDeo 3.1 [8-moves.pgn] Time Control : Time control : 40/120 Games : 1000
No. Name Win Draw Loss Unf. Score Games % --------------------------------------------------------- 1 ProDeo 3.1 +253 =497 -250 *0 501.5 1000 50.1% 2 Benjamin 1.1 +250 =497 -253 *0 498.5 1000 49.9%
I am flabbergasted, by chance I created an aggressive engine without elo loss
That sounds like a claim worth testing.
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:14 am
Here is a nice takedown of Hiarcs 14 in the Caro Kann opening. Time Control 40 move 4 minutes.
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:38 am
Typical, winning from an 160 elo higher rated engine. Something the equal rated ProDeo 3.1 possibliy can't. I always had this feeling Benjamin would do better against higher rated engines than ProDeo because of its playing style.
I will do some tests if this gut feeling is true.
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:48 pm
About my gut feeling - played four 40/120 matches each 1000 games against a pool of much too strong engines.
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GRL gambit positions ProDeo 3.1 2747 elo Benjamin 1.1 2782 elo +35
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Normal positions - 8-moves.pgn ProDeo 3.1 2768 elo Benjamin 1.1 2771 elo +3
Computer chess never is boring. Computer chess never disappoints. Computer chess never ceases to amaze me.
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Tue Oct 05, 2021 3:58 pm
I have a LTC 40 moves 2 hours game in progress with Spike 1.4 (Spike Using 6 Threads/CPU). So far game is about even after 31 moves played.
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:14 pm
adminx wrote:
I have a LTC 40 moves 2 hours game in progress with Spike 1.4 (Spike Using 6 Threads/CPU). So far game is about even after 31 moves played.
That's a 3000+ engine
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Tue Oct 05, 2021 6:40 pm
Admin wrote:
adminx wrote:
I have a LTC 40 moves 2 hours game in progress with Spike 1.4 (Spike Using 6 Threads/CPU). So far game is about even after 31 moves played.
That's a 3000+ engine
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:22 pm
Nice game, even the endgame was fun.
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:19 am
Results of 100 Games with Chess Tiger 2007 TC 5 Minutes 40 Moves
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Result: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # name games wins draws losses score elo + - 1. Benjamin 1.1 100 53 38 9 72 2750 30 28 2. Chess Tiger 2007 100 9 38 53 28 2610 28 30
Cross table: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ # name score games 1 2 1. Benjamin 1.1 72 100 x 72.0 2. Chess Tiger 2007 28 100 28.0 x
Tech (average nodes, depths, time/m per move, others per game), counted for computing moves only, ignored moves with zero nodes: # name nodes/m NPS depth/m time/m moves time 1. Benjamin 1.1 27198K 3359296 17.5 8.1 76.1 616.3 2. Chess Tiger 2007 22587K 2822449 22.5 8.0 75.4 603.4 all --- 24319K 3093707 20.0 8.0 75.8 609.8
Results of 100 Games with Gambit Tiger 2007 TC 5 Minutes 40 Moves
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Result: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # name games wins draws losses score elo + - 1. Benjamin 1.1 100 71 14 15 78 2750 36 33 2. Gambit Tiger 2007 100 15 14 71 22 2530 33 36
Cross table: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- # name score games 1 2 1. Benjamin 1.1 78 100 x 78.0 2. Gambit Tiger 2007 22 100 22.0 x
Tech (average nodes, depths, time/m per move, others per game), counted for computing moves only, ignored moves with zero nodes: # name nodes/m NPS depth/m time/m moves time 1. Benjamin 1.1 13644K 2077022 15.4 6.6 68.3 448.7 2. Gambit Tiger 2007 7887K 1065384 16.7 7.4 68.0 503.7 all --- 10518K 1541982 16.1 7.0 68.2 476.2
Used a anchor of 2750 for Benjamin 1.1
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:23 am
That's pretty good, thanks.
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:30 am
I am still waiting for the LTC game with Spike 1.4 to finish (Return Game Benjamin with White). I am sure it will be a draw, but it is a must see. RR+B+P versus Q+R endgame. I think it shows the work you put into King Safety paid off. They just reached the 5th time control. (160 Moves Played) Spike 1.4 cannot find a way to breach White's castled position.
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:32 am
You are a man of patience
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Wed Oct 06, 2021 5:23 pm
Little over 6 Time Controls Later, Not bad for an engine that has no Endgame Bases and no SMP.
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Subject: Re: Benjamin 1.1 - Improved Playing Style and Strength. Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:37 am
Gandalf 7 using 2 Threads
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Result: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # name games wins draws losses score elo + - 1. Benjamin 1.1 100 45 39 16 64.5 2750 29 28 2. Gandalf 7.0 100 16 39 45 35.5 2660 28 29
Cross table: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- # name score games 1 2 1. Benjamin 1.1 64.5 100 x 64.5 2. Gandalf 7.0 35.5 100 35.5 x