Subject: Tactical Sacrifice by Rebel against Human Sat Feb 26, 2022 10:32 am
Hi, Is there any rebel/prodeo/benjamin engine which sacrifices intentionally to get into better position/ quick win against human in middgame or endgame (below 2000Elo)? Higher rated Chess engines might be able to refute this kind of sacrifices but it might work well against players below 2000Elo. please let me know any information regarding this.
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Subject: Re: Tactical Sacrifice by Rebel against Human Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:30 pm
Just look at the thread I just opened, full of sacrifices.
Subject: Re: Tactical Sacrifice by Rebel against Human Sat Feb 26, 2022 2:42 pm
Thanks. I am a big fan of rebel 14 (NNUE tuner 100) especially CSTAL (NNUE tuner 200) because of its ultra aggressiveness. Rebel14/CsTal has ELO over 3000. Is it possible to limit its ELo below 2500 or below 2000 Elo (UCI_limitstrength etc.) with same aggressiveness? Any information for lowering engine strength with aggressiveness is very much appreciated. Thank you again
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Chris Whittington
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Subject: Re: Tactical Sacrifice by Rebel against Human Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:31 pm
balbichi027 wrote:
Thanks. I am a big fan of rebel 14 (NNUE tuner 100) especially CSTAL (NNUE tuner 200) because of its ultra aggressiveness. Rebel14/CsTal has ELO over 3000. Is it possible to limit its ELo below 2500 or below 2000 Elo (UCI_limitstrength etc.) with same aggressiveness? Any information for lowering engine strength with aggressiveness is very much appreciated. Thank you again
I would have to specifically prepare such a network. Is the One-Minute-Blitzer network not weak enough for your purposes?
balbichi027
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Subject: Re: Tactical Sacrifice by Rebel against Human Sat Feb 26, 2022 6:32 pm
Chris Whittington wrote:
balbichi027 wrote:
Thanks. I am a big fan of rebel 14 (NNUE tuner 100) especially CSTAL (NNUE tuner 200) because of its ultra aggressiveness. Rebel14/CsTal has ELO over 3000. Is it possible to limit its ELo below 2500 or below 2000 Elo (UCI_limitstrength etc.) with same aggressiveness? Any information for lowering engine strength with aggressiveness is very much appreciated. Thank you again
I would have to specifically prepare such a network. Is the One-Minute-Blitzer network not weak enough for your purposes?
Thanks for looking into this. Actually CSTal "One-Minute-Blitzer network" has 3000Elo which is very tough for me to play against it but its aggressive approach shows some very good line to play. If there is limit on strength of Engine Elo along with aggressiveness or other personality it would be very fun to play against it. It would be my pleasure to wait for your network. Thank you.
Mclane
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Subject: Re: Tactical Sacrifice by Rebel against Human Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:44 pm
What about reducing the hardware power to reduce the strength. E.g. i can reduce CSTal DOS by giving the engine only 1000 or 3000 cycles. I can do this on ANY dosbox and it plays as strong with 3000 cycles on my windows pc then on my mobile phone dosbox.
balbichi027
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Subject: Re: Tactical Sacrifice by Rebel against Human Tue Jul 19, 2022 8:27 pm
Chris Whittington wrote:
balbichi027 wrote:
Thanks. I am a big fan of rebel 14 (NNUE tuner 100) especially CSTAL (NNUE tuner 200) because of its ultra aggressiveness. Rebel14/CsTal has ELO over 3000. Is it possible to limit its ELo below 2500 or below 2000 Elo (UCI_limitstrength etc.) with same aggressiveness? Any information for lowering engine strength with aggressiveness is very much appreciated. Thank you again
I would have to specifically prepare such a network. Is the One-Minute-Blitzer network not weak enough for your purposes?
Is there any update regarding limiting the ELO of chess engine with same aggressiveness? thanks
texium
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Subject: Re: Tactical Sacrifice by Rebel against Human Tue Jul 19, 2022 11:47 pm
I have the exact settings I tuned for personal use that gets Rebel Tal to the rating you want all non-mentioned settings are default MAKE SURE TO USE GUI with MAX DEPTH SETTINGS Depth = 12 (This is necessary) hash = 128 nnue tune = 200 lazy eval = 50 null move = fail high null move reduction = 3 verification search = endgame verification reduction = 3 history pruning = on history threshold = 75 Quiescence Check Plies = 2 Material 80 Piece Activity = 140 King Safety = 108 King Tropism = 25 Pawn Structure = 110 Passed Pawns = 105
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Subject: Re: Tactical Sacrifice by Rebel against Human