Subject: Up to twice the death rate in 2022, for the Coronavirus Vaccinated in England Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:46 am
Death rates are higher for every age group, but not by much among the younger people. I guess it would be the same elsewhere, but I haven't found the data. The UK, on the other hand, publishes reported deaths periodically, trough the ONS. They're grouped by age, so you can see that the death rate rises for the vaccinated as they get older, just the opposite to what we were told. At least in Spain, vaccination campaigns always started with the elderly and crept its way onto the youngest portion of the population. Now we see the "benefits" of such an approach.
Below is a graphic I made, based on the data here, where the lightest colors are for the vaccinated and the darkest for those not vaccinated. The group 90+ had the lines so far apart, that I used a continuous black line for the unvaccinated and a dotted line for the vaccinated, so as not to have them mix with colors of other age groups. I only looked at the "all causes" numbers on Table 8 because I don't trust the causes given and because that's the table which gives all the pertinent data: age group, deaths per month, vaccination status. For the unvaccinated, death figures were adjusted according to the vaccination percentage for that particular age group, as published at the bottom of this page:
As we can see, in January, when most ICU COVID cases where still infected with Delta, only the "specially protected" group of 90 and up, were dying more when vaccinated. In February we have the group of 80-89 joining the "death wagon". In March, the group aged 70-79 clearly crosses the Rubicon. By April all other age groups were reporting more deaths for the vaccinated, although in the case of the 40-49 group, you probably need to look at May data to see something statistically significant.
Omicron’s subvariants are considered to be especially efficient spreaders of the disease, and the BA.5 and BA.4 variants appear to be better than other subvariants at evading protection provided by vaccines and previous infection (although doctors say the vaccines still provide important protection against severe disease and death).
So it doesn't matter if you die more because of whatever, as long as you're protected against Omicron (or so they say).
I bet a real vaccine to prevent stupid would be even more challenging.
Subject: Re: Up to twice the death rate in 2022, for the Coronavirus Vaccinated in England Sat Jul 30, 2022 11:07 am
I haven't studied the data in detail, but at a glance, it looks as though this data is cherry picked, and that a vital piece of information is missing: that people are less likely to get Covid in the first place when vaccinated.