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 Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report

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PostSubject: Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report   Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report EmptyFri Oct 07, 2022 9:05 am

http://rebel13.nl/niemann-report.pdf

Have a look at table two, they say they caught 25 GM's in cheating, among Hans, all 25 confessed.

Then from the email correspondence part:

From: Account Review accountreview@chess.com
Subject: Chess.com Account and CGC
Date: September 5, 2022 at 6:20 PM
To: Hans Niemann

Dear Hans,

Chess.com has elected to privately remove access from your account on Chess.com, and we are rescinding the invitation to join the CGC per your qualified spot.

Chess.com retains the right to close/remove access to any account at anytime without explanation —
https://www.chess.com/legal/user-agreement — see “Termination”.

We will however be providing you with your full compensation of $5,000.00 US dollars for the qualified spot in the CGC. You can claim your prize here https://go.chess.com/invoice at your earliest convenience.

Best wishes.

Chess.com Team

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I am beginning to understand the temptation to cheat.

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PostSubject: Re: Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report   Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report EmptyFri Oct 07, 2022 10:22 am

Admin wrote:
http://rebel13.nl/niemann-report.pdf

Have a look at table two, they say they caught 25 GM's in cheating, among Hans, all 25 confessed.

Then from the email correspondence part:

From: Account Review accountreview@chess.com
Subject: Chess.com Account and CGC
Date: September 5, 2022 at 6:20 PM
To: Hans Niemann

Dear Hans,

Chess.com has elected to privately remove access from your account on Chess.com, and we are rescinding the invitation to join the CGC per your qualified spot.

Chess.com retains the right to close/remove access to any account at anytime without explanation —
https://www.chess.com/legal/user-agreement — see “Termination”.

We will however be providing you with your full compensation of $5,000.00 US dollars for the qualified spot in the CGC. You can claim your prize here https://go.chess.com/invoice at your earliest convenience.

Best wishes.

Chess.com Team

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I am beginning to understand the temptation to cheat.

The report adds nothing new. We already knew Hans “cheated” online and that there was zero evidence he cheated OTB.

I am beginning to believe more and more my long held view that when a “community” gets itself all worked up over some misdemeanour or other allegedly committed by one person, it’s because the misdemeanour is actually rampant in the community and done by practically everybody. Eg, looking at another computer in online games, copying other peoples’ code, using “illegally obtained” executables.

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PostSubject: Re: Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report   Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report EmptyFri Oct 07, 2022 11:33 am

Chris Whittington wrote:
Admin wrote:
http://rebel13.nl/niemann-report.pdf

Have a look at table two, they say they caught 25 GM's in cheating, among Hans, all 25 confessed.

Then from the email correspondence part:

From: Account Review accountreview@chess.com
Subject: Chess.com Account and CGC
Date: September 5, 2022 at 6:20 PM
To: Hans Niemann

Dear Hans,

Chess.com has elected to privately remove access from your account on Chess.com, and we are rescinding the invitation to join the CGC per your qualified spot.

Chess.com retains the right to close/remove access to any account at anytime without explanation —
https://www.chess.com/legal/user-agreement — see “Termination”.

We will however be providing you with your full compensation of $5,000.00 US dollars for the qualified spot in the CGC. You can claim your prize here https://go.chess.com/invoice at your earliest convenience.

Best wishes.

Chess.com Team

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I am beginning to understand the temptation to cheat.

The report adds nothing new. We already knew Hans “cheated” online and that there was zero evidence he cheated OTB.

I am beginning to believe more and more my long held view that when a “community” gets itself all worked up over some misdemeanour or other allegedly committed by one person, it’s because the misdemeanour is actually rampant in the community and done by practically everybody. Eg, looking at another computer in online games, copying other peoples’ code, using “illegally obtained” executables.

It is sad, but this was all about some kind of revenge, and the cheating OTB accusation was nothing more then a means to a end. As GM Carlsen knew of the online cheating. That was very public knowledge.

What if GM Carlsen won or drew his game with GM Hans Niemann.

1. What chance is there that GM Carlsen quits the 2022 Sinquefield Cup after winning against GM Hans Niemann? 0% Chance.
2. What chance is there that GM Carlsen quits the 2022 Sinquefield Cup after drawing against GM Hans Niemann? 0% Chance.
3. What chance is there that GM Carlsen accuses GM Hans Niemann of cheating after winning against GM Hans Niemann? 0% Chance.
4. What chance is there that GM Carlsen accuses GM Hans Niemann of cheating after drawing against GM Hans Niemann? 0% Chance.

5. What chance is there that the other players play GM Hans Niemann. if they know GM Hans Niemann is cheating OTB after GM Carlsen
quits the 2022 Sinquefield Cup? 0% Chance.
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PostSubject: Re: Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report   Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report EmptyFri Oct 07, 2022 5:23 pm

More cheating in chess...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g68_5-bbQ0E

Have beer and popcorn ready... Basketball Basketball
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PostSubject: Re: Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report   Excerps from the chess.com Niemann report EmptyFri Oct 07, 2022 5:30 pm

Maybe that's why I have a low rating. I did not cheat (enough).

Perhaps these cheating cases  getting in the news are just a way to get more publicity for chess.
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