After playing through some of the recent games of this new version of Cstal. I must say every game Chris has posted has been amazingly complicated, aggressive, and looks like something very new. I like it! Perhaps, we can hope this engine becomes a commercial release ; as I'll be buying that one, for sure! Keep up the great work! I'll keep watching with great interest.
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Ipmanchess
Posts : 42 Join date : 2022-06-08
Subject: Re: The New CStal Mon Mar 27, 2023 8:08 pm
Have not see it or receive it yet for testing?
Enjoy your testings..
Ipman.
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Chris Whittington
Posts : 1254 Join date : 2020-11-17 Location : France
Subject: Re: The New CStal Mon Mar 27, 2023 10:05 pm
Ipmanchess wrote:
Have not see it or receive it yet for testing?
Enjoy your testings..
Ipman.
Nobody has a version except me and Ed. And, I promised you were first!
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Mclane
Posts : 3022 Join date : 2020-11-17 Age : 57 Location : United States of Europe, Germany, Ruhr area
Subject: Re: The New CStal Tue Mar 28, 2023 8:17 pm
Robert Flesher wrote:
After playing through some of the recent games of this new version of Cstal. I must say every game Chris has posted has been amazingly complicated, aggressive, and looks like something very new. I like it! Perhaps, we can hope this engine becomes a commercial release ; as I'll be buying that one, for sure! Keep up the great work! I'll keep watching with great interest.
As far as i have seen it most computerchess nerds do NOT replay pgn games. They are mainly interested in ELO . Numbers. Results.
I often wonder if they play chess at all.
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Robert Flesher
Posts : 19 Join date : 2020-11-26
Subject: Re: The New CStal Tue Mar 28, 2023 9:57 pm
Mclane wrote:
Robert Flesher wrote:
After playing through some of the recent games of this new version of Cstal. I must say every game Chris has posted has been amazingly complicated, aggressive, and looks like something very new. I like it! Perhaps, we can hope this engine becomes a commercial release ; as I'll be buying that one, for sure! Keep up the great work! I'll keep watching with great interest.
As far as i have seen it most computerchess nerds do NOT replay pgn games. They are mainly interested in ELO . Numbers. Results.
I often wonder if they play chess at all.
+1
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Brendan
Posts : 400 Join date : 2020-11-18 Age : 40
Subject: Re: The New CStal Wed Mar 29, 2023 4:15 am
Mclane wrote:
Robert Flesher wrote:
After playing through some of the recent games of this new version of Cstal. I must say every game Chris has posted has been amazingly complicated, aggressive, and looks like something very new. I like it! Perhaps, we can hope this engine becomes a commercial release ; as I'll be buying that one, for sure! Keep up the great work! I'll keep watching with great interest.
As far as i have seen it most computerchess nerds do NOT replay pgn games. They are mainly interested in ELO . Numbers. Results.
I often wonder if they play chess at all.
I've said this before:
We are chessplayers who use computer chess to explore/deepen our passion.
These guys are IT guys who use chess to explore/deepen their passion.
They aren't the same as us.
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mwyoung
Posts : 880 Join date : 2020-11-25 Location : USA
Subject: Re: The New CStal Wed Mar 29, 2023 11:05 am
Mclane wrote:
Robert Flesher wrote:
After playing through some of the recent games of this new version of Cstal. I must say every game Chris has posted has been amazingly complicated, aggressive, and looks like something very new. I like it! Perhaps, we can hope this engine becomes a commercial release ; as I'll be buying that one, for sure! Keep up the great work! I'll keep watching with great interest.
As far as i have seen it most computerchess nerds do NOT replay pgn games. They are mainly interested in ELO . Numbers. Results.
I often wonder if they play chess at all.
You can say it. We all know!
These guys are computer nerds.
These GUYS do not care about chess at all or computer chess. Computer chess is just a means to a end to show who has the biggest dick.
It is all about their computer, not chess.
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fsanders
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Subject: Re: The New CStal Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:06 pm
How would you categorise the programmers?
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Mclane
Posts : 3022 Join date : 2020-11-17 Age : 57 Location : United States of Europe, Germany, Ruhr area
Subject: Re: The New CStal Fri Apr 07, 2023 10:12 pm
Computer chess is about passion for chess. Chess is an Art. These guys think chess is going deep in the tree and eating material. But a human plans for MATE. Chess is to mate the opposite king. This is the plan. Machine chess is not having a plan.
CSTAL is trying to mate. A plan !!
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Mclane
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Subject: Re: The New CStal Tue May 23, 2023 4:22 pm
Will CSTal participate at the championship in Valencia?
Admin Admin
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Subject: Re: The New CStal Tue May 23, 2023 4:23 pm
What ?
Dio
Posts : 222 Join date : 2021-08-28
Subject: Re: The New CStal Tue May 23, 2023 5:18 pm
it's not that far from me, just a car drive over the mountains, but ICGA? After what they did with Rybka? I don't think so. Comp Chess events are for fun, not to be confused with getting lynched by psychopaths.
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Ozymandias
Posts : 622 Join date : 2020-11-23
Subject: Re: The New CStal Tue May 23, 2023 8:12 pm
it's not that far from me, just a car drive over the mountains, but ICGA? After what they did with Rybka? I don't think so. Comp Chess events are for fun, not to be confused with getting lynched by psychopaths.
July 8-16 in Valencia (what I heard) will be scorching hot.
Peter Berger
Posts : 131 Join date : 2020-11-20
Subject: Re: The New CStal Wed May 24, 2023 12:24 pm
it's not that far from me, just a car drive over the mountains, but ICGA? After what they did with Rybka? I don't think so. Comp Chess events are for fun, not to be confused with getting lynched by psychopaths.
If I were in your shoes, I probably couldn't resist the temptation to participate at all. And don't forget, that you'd probably be a major favourite to win the event.
They'd charge some money for ICGA membership for the last year ( a very minor amount). And they'd behave nicely ( I just envision Jaap and his secretary whose name I can't remember right now). Not to talk about the nice programmers you'd be likely to meet.
This kind of temptation is btw the only reason Crafty ever participated in ICGA events from 2004 on. Bob was going pretty wild at ICGA on CCC for setting these things up at horrible places using pretty unreasonable arguments. Israel looked like a fascinating place to go for me to meet Omid and Amir - so I thought I might as well offer to operate for Bob. And once this was offered, I thought it might be interesting to give this challenge a serious try .
Mclane
Posts : 3022 Join date : 2020-11-17 Age : 57 Location : United States of Europe, Germany, Ruhr area
Subject: Re: The New CStal Wed May 24, 2023 4:46 pm
Icga is not nice to people who criticise them. We are persona non Grata for them. Especially jaap.
Mclane
Posts : 3022 Join date : 2020-11-17 Age : 57 Location : United States of Europe, Germany, Ruhr area
Subject: Re: The New CStal Sat Oct 28, 2023 12:32 pm
I would prefer if he (T Czub) is excluded from any new versions, please. Or old ones for that matter.
What makes you say that?
Because above and beyond general ignored insults and provocations going on over months, T Czub made death threats against several posters on this forum, for which he was banned for 30 days. After his return Ed made a concerted effort, privately with him, to try to get him to withdraw and apologise. Ed got nowhere. All my political life, since Vietnam war, I’ve been an anti-NSDAP fighter. To my regret I’ve tolerated NSDAP style behaviour from T Czub for far too many years, whether this is his desire to force those he politically disagrees with to wear signs in the streets, his endless calls for killing, his death fantasies, his anti-Russian racism, anti-Serb racism and and and. The death threats and the refusal to acknowledge or apologise was the final straw, actually that finally broke this forum. Not much I can do to express my disgust, but I can deny him a license to use CSTal or any software I’ve a copyright on, so that’s what I’ve done. No compromise with right wing thugs and NDSAP activists. Despite lies and suggestions to the contrary, T Czub is not a CSTal developer, he has had nothing to do with me or the engine for 25 years, he can’t write software and he doesn’t actually understand chess engine algorithms. I have no connection with him past 25 years, nor now, nor future and he is denied licenced use of the software.
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Subject: Re: The New CStal Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:29 pm