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Jeroen_TCEC




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PostSubject: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2024 10:18 am

Hi all,

I have made a new version of Rebel.bin, the Polyglot openingbook for Rebel. You can download it over here:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ewbwkyexkspablh/Rebel.bin/file

Many new lines and improvements/additions on existing lines.

Enjoy!

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PostSubject: Re: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2024 11:19 am

Tanks Jeroen, I will add the new book to the download.

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PostSubject: Re: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptyFri Mar 15, 2024 9:43 am

Admin wrote:
Tanks Jeroen, I will add the new book to the download.

Thanks! Will you send Rebel 16.3 including book to the SSDF? IMO very interesting to see how it performs. Maybe top 5?

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PostSubject: Re: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptyMon Mar 18, 2024 10:11 am

A little test:

Rebel 16.3 (+Perfect2021.bin) - Berserk 12 (+Rebel.bin) 36-64

Now I switched books:

Rebel 16.3 (+Rebel.bin) - Berserk 12 (+Perfect2021.bin) 48-52

A significant difference of 12%! Actually 48% is a very good result, as Berserk is extremely good at blitz.

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PostSubject: Re: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptyMon Mar 18, 2024 10:22 am

Nice bounce
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PostSubject: Re: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptyMon Mar 18, 2024 7:43 pm

Thanks, I got a copy.
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PostSubject: Re: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptyTue Mar 19, 2024 11:28 am

I really like your book. I pitted Rebel at tournament time control against Stockfish 16.1 without book, Rebel with the black pieces and had a look at your complicated Paulsen line. Rebel's last book move was like move 30 when Stockfish on its own already displayed 0.00s everywhere. Rebel was less optimistic, but it had no difficulty to find correct moves.
I can see how this is possible Stockfish being that deterministic, but this is clearly a labour of love, thank you.
Btw - is there any technical reason why Rebel can't play capture moves from book? Or is it just that no one ever bothered to fix this bug in the book utility?

Peter

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PostSubject: Re: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptySat Mar 23, 2024 9:17 am

Interesting result:

Rebel 16.3 (+Rebel.bin) - Stockfish 11 (+Small solid book) 134.5-65.5 (=67.25%)

That's almost 10% better than Rebel 16.2 did in a similar test. Rebel 16.3 won 23 games as black, quite astonishing.

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PostSubject: Re: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptySat Mar 23, 2024 12:03 pm

It gets even better:

Rebel 16.3 (+Rebel.bin) - Stockfish 12 (+Small solid book) 105-95  (=52.5%)

In my tests Rebel 16.2 never managed to beat Stockfish 12 (the first SF with NNUE) and often lost rather clearly.

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PostSubject: Re: New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3   New Polyglot openingbook for REBEL 16.3 EmptySat Mar 23, 2024 12:52 pm

Yes, who would had thought that when SF12 NNUE came out ~4 years ago and was miles ahead.
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