Another perfect Let's Check game. More cheating by Grandmasters?

Posts : 880 Join date : 2020-11-25 Location : USA

[pgn][Event "Grand Slam Final 5th"]
[Site "Sao Paulo/Bilbao"]
[Date "2012.10.12"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B52"]
[WhiteElo "2843"]
[BlackElo "2780"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[EventDate "2012.09.24"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "10"]
[EventCountry "BRA"]
[EventCategory "22"]
[SourceTitle "CBM 151"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceVersion "1"]
[SourceVersionDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceQuality "1"]

{Engine/Game Correlation: White = 100%, Black = 40%.} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 5. c4 Nf6 6. Nc3 g6 7. d4 cxd4 8. Nxd4 Bg7 9. f3 Qc7 10. b3 Qa5 11. Bb2 Nc6 12. O-O O-O 13. Nce2 {-0.14/0} Rfd8 {0.00/0} (13... Rfd8 14. Kh1 Nxd4 {-0.14/30 Stockfish 14.1}) (13... Rfd8 14. Kh1 Nxd4 {-0.07/44 Stockfish 15}) (13... Rfd8 14. Qe1 Qxe1 {-0.05/24 Stockfish 9}) 14. Bc3 {0.00/0} (14. Kh1 Nxd4 15. Bxd4 {0.00/39 Stockfish 15/koala2}) (14. Nxc6 bxc6 15. Bc3 {-0.06/20 Deep Fritz 14 x64}) (14. Qc2 Nxd4 15. Bxd4 {0.00/25 Stockfish 14.1}) 14... Qb6 {-0.20/0} (14... Qc5 15. Kh1 d5 {0.00/27 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (14... Qb6 15. Kh1 d5 {-0.44/30 Stockfish 15}) (14... Qb6 15. Kh1 d5 {-0.26/19}) 15. Kh1 {-0.40/0} (15. Kh1 d5 16. Nxc6 {-0.20/36 Stockfish 14/Clare}) (15. Rf2 d5 16. Nxc6 {-0.17/27 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (15. Kh1 d5 16. Nxc6 {-0.26/44 Stockfish 14.1}) 15... d5 {-0.21/0} (15... d5 16. Nxc6 bxc6 {-0.40/34 Stockfish 9}) (15... d5 16. Nxc6 bxc6 {0.13/22 Fritz 16}) (15... d5 16. Nxc6 bxc6 {0.16/22 Fritz 18/Bertus1948}) 16. Nxc6 {-0.53/0} (16. Nxc6 bxc6 17. e5 {-0.21/31 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (16. Nxc6 bxc6 17. Qe1 {-0.07/28 Fritz 16}) (16. Nxc6 bxc6 17. cxd5 {0.06/28 Fritz 17}) 16... bxc6 {-0.05/0} (16... bxc6 17. Qe1 a5 {-0.53/32}) (16... bxc6 17. Qe1 a5 {-0.19/39 Stockfish 14.1/Clare}) (16... bxc6 17. cxd5 cxd5 {-0.07/25 Fritz 17}) 17. Qe1 {-0.18/0} (17. Qe1 a5 18. e5 {-0.05/32 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (17. e5 Ne8 18. Qe1 {-0.08/35 Stockfish 9}) (17. Qe1 a5 18. e5 {-0.07/28 Houdini 6.03 x64}) 17... Rdc8 {0.19/0} (17... a5 18. e5 Ne8 {-0.18/35 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (17... a5 18. e5 Ne8 {-0.24/36 Stockfish 15/Sindre Lyngsaunet}) (17... a5 18. e5 Ne8 {-0.20/27 Stockfish 14.1}) 18. e5 {0.33/0} (18. e5 Ne8 19. f4 {0.19/25 Deep Fritz 13}) (18. e5 Ne8 19. f4 {0.84/28 Stockfish 14}) (18. Rc1 dxe4 19. fxe4 {0.21/22 Fritz 16}) 18... Ne8 {0.24/0} (18... Ne8 19. f4 e6 {0.33/27 Houdini 6.03 x64}) (18... Ne8 19. f4 e6 {0.09/35 Stockfish 11/Kaos_00}) (18... Nd7 19. e6 fxe6 {0.98/20 Stockfish 14.1}) 19. e6 {-0.26/0} (19. f4 dxc4 20. f5 {0.24/27 Fritz 17}) (19. f4 e6 20. Ba5 {1.46/34 Stockfish 020622}) (19. e6 f5 20. cxd5 {0.15/24 Fritz 16}) 19... fxe6 {0.56/0} (19... f6 20. Ba5 Qa6 {-0.26/41 Stockfish 020622}) (19... f6 20. Ba5 Qa6 {0.00/29 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (19... f6 20. Ba5 Qa6 {0.11/25 Fritz 16}) 20. Nf4 {0.23/0} (20. Nf4 Bxc3 21. Qxc3 {0.56/29 Fritz 17}) (20. Nf4 Bxc3 21. Qxc3 {0.62/26 Stockfish 9}) (20. Nf4 c5 21. cxd5 {0.35/32 Stockfish 14/KillerBateman}) 20... Bxc3 {0.82/0} (20... c5 21. cxd5 c4 {0.23/38 Stockfish 14/KillerBateman}) (20... c5 21. cxd5 c4 {0.25/35 Stockfish 020622}) (20... c5 21. cxd5 c4 {0.47/27 Stockfish 14.1}) 21. Qxc3 {0.66/0} (21. Qxc3 Ng7 22. Rae1 {0.82/30 Stockfish 14}) (21. Qxc3 Ng7 22. c5 {0.85/26 Stockfish 15}) (21. Qxc3 d4 22. Qe1 {0.58/19 Stockfish 9}) 21... d4 {1.07/0} (21... Ng7 22. c5 Qc7 {0.66/41 Stockfish 8}) (21... d4 22. Qe1 c5 {0.61/40 Stockfish 8}) (21... d4 22. Qe1 c5 {0.51/39 Stockfish 8}) 22. Qd2 {0.01/0} (22. Qe1 c5 23. Nxe6 {1.07/37 Stockfish 11}) (22. Qe1 c5 23. Nxe6 {0.85/41 Stockfish 15}) (22. Qd2 Ng7 23. Rae1 {0.67/26 Stockfish 9}) 22... c5 {0.87/0} (22... c5 23. Rfe1 Ng7 {0.01/27 Fritz 16}) (22... c5 23. Rae1 Ng7 {0.71/31 Stockfish 020622}) (22... Ng7 23. Rae1 c5 {0.87/28 Stockfish 15}) 23. Rae1 {0.44/0} (23. Rae1 Ng7 24. g4 {0.87/34 Stockfish 020622}) (23. Rfe1 Ng7 24. Re5 {-0.15/24}) (23. Rae1 Rc6 24. h4 {0.88/24 Stockfish 9}) 23... Ng7 {0.33/0} (23... Rc6 24. h4 Ng7 {0.44/33 Stockfish 11}) (23... Ng7 24. g4 Qd6 {0.46/31 Stockfish 020622}) (23... Ng7 24. g4 Qd6 {0.10/27 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) 24. g4 {0.00/0} (24. g4 Qd6 25. Nd3 {0.33/29 Fritz 17}) (24. g4 Qc6 25. Kg2 {0.86/30 Stockfish 9}) (24. g4 Qd6 25. Re4 {0.00/26 Deep Fritz 13}) 24... Rc6 $6 {1.44/0} (24... Qd6 25. Re4 a5 {0.00/27 Fritz 16}) (24... Qd6 25. Re4 a5 {-0.04/17}) (24... Qd6 25. Nd3 a5 {0.38/34 Stockfish 020622}) 25. Nh3 $16 {1.79/0} (25. Nh3 e5 26. Qh6 {1.44/32 Stockfish 9}) (25. Nd3 Rf8 26. Qg5 {0.34/24 Deep Fritz 13}) (25. Nh3 e5 26. Qh6 {1.86/29 Stockfish 14}) 25... Ne8 $6 {4.26/0} (25... e5 26. Qh6 Ne6 {1.79/39 Stockfish 15}) (25... Kh8 26. Qh6 Qb8 {0.60/28 Fritz 16}) (25... Qb8 26. Qh6 Kh8 {1.01/27 Deep Fritz 13}) 26. Qh6 $18 {1.99/0} (26. Qh6 Nf6 27. Ng5 {4.26/39 Stockfish 150822}) (26. Qh6 Nf6 27. Ng5 {3.37/35}) (26. Qh6 Qa6 27. Ng5 {3.11/26}) 26... Nf6 {1.98/0} (26... Nf6 27. Ng5 Qa6 {1.99/29 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (26... Nf6 27. Ng5 Qa6 {1.89/27}) (26... Nf6 27. Ng5 Qa6 {3.17/24 Stockfish 15}) 27. Ng5 {3.71/0} (27. Ng5 Qa6 28. Re5 {1.98/28 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (27. Ng5 Qa6 28. Re5 {1.35/24 Deep Fritz 13/Clare}) (27. Ng5 Qa6 28. Re5 {2.30/27 Stockfish 15}) 27... d3 {3.20/0} (27... Qa6 28. Re5 Qc8 {3.71/43 Stockfish 14.1}) (27... Qa6 28. Re5 Qc8 {1.47/25 Fritz 17}) (27... e5 28. Rxe5 Re8 {0.81/18 Fritz 16}) 28. Re5 {2.25/0} (28. Re5 Kh8 29. Rd1 {3.20/28}) (28. Re5 Kh8 29. Rd1 {2.82/29 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (28. Re5 Qc7 29. Nxe6 {3.52/25 Stockfish 9}) 28... Kh8 {3.90/0} (28... Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 {2.25/27 Fritz 18/Bertus1948}) (28... Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 {2.84/29}) (28... Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 {1.83/19}) 29. Rd1 {6.08/0} (29. Rd1 Qa6 30. a4 {3.90/32 Komodo 14.1 64-bit/Pacificrabbit}) (29. h4 Qb8 30. Nxe6 {2.73/28}) (29. Rd1 Qa6 30. Re3 {2.51/25 Fritz 18}) 29... Qa6 (29... Qa6 30. a4 Qc8 {6.08/32}) (29... Qa6 30. Re3 Kg8 {2.56/26}) (29... Qa6 30. Rxd3 Qxa2 {4.99/33}) 30. a4 (30. a4 Qc8 31. Rxd3 Rb8 {3.36/39}) (30. a4 Qc8 31. Rxd3 a5 {5.98/37 Stockfish 15}) (30. a4 Rb8 31. Kg2 Qc8 {3.25/30}) 1-0

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[pgn][Event "Grand Slam Final 5th"]
[Site "Sao Paulo/Bilbao"]
[Date "2012.10.12"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B52"]
[WhiteElo "2843"]
[BlackElo "2780"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[EventDate "2012.09.24"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "10"]
[EventCountry "BRA"]
[EventCategory "22"]
[SourceTitle "CBM 151"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceVersion "1"]
[SourceVersionDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceQuality "1"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 {Stockfish 070922:} 5. c4 Nf6 6. Nc3 g6 7. d4 {OK} cxd4 {OK} 8. Nxd4 Bg7 9. f3 {OK} Qc7 10. b3 {OK} Qa5 {OK} 11. Bb2 {Inaccurate} Nc6 12. O-O {OK} O-O {OK} 13. Nce2 Rfd8 {OK} 14. Bc3 {Inaccurate} Qb6 {OK} 15. Kh1 {Best} d5 {OK} 16. Nxc6 {OK} bxc6 17. Qe1 {OK} Rdc8 $2 {[#] Mistake (1.6)} (17... a5 $15) 18. e5 $1 $16 {Strong} Ne8 19. e6 {Mistake (1.4)} (19. f4 $16) 19... fxe6 {Inaccurate} 20. Nf4 {OK} Bxc3 {Inaccurate} 21. Qxc3 d4 22. Qd2 c5 23. Rae1 {OK} Ng7 {OK} 24. g4 {OK} Rc6 $2 {Loses game (1.7)} (24... Qd6 $16) 25. Nh3 $18 {OK} Ne8 $2 {[#] Mistake (2.1)} (25... e5) 26. Qh6 $1 $18 {Strong} Nf6 27. Ng5 {Best} d3 $2 (27... Qa6) 28. Re5 $18 Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 30. a4 {Strong: White=2 Best: White=2 OK: White=10, Black=7 Inaccurate: White=2, Black=2 Mistake: White=1, Black=2 Loses game: Black=1. Weighted Error Value: White=0.10/Black=0.48 Centipawn loss: w=12/b=44} 1-0

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Let's Check vs Centipawn Analysis.

Using Let's Check GM Carlsen played the perfect game with 100% chess engine matches. , and could be cheating.

This is the same evidence that is being used against GM Niemann.

But Let's Check has major flaws, and is not indication that a player cheated.

Look at move 19.e4 by GM Magnus Carlsen. Let's Check gives GM Carlsen a 100% score of chess engine matches.
Despite the fact that GM Carlsen blundered at move 19 by 1.4 Centipawns.

So how can Let's Check say GM Carlsen played a perfect game with 100% chess engine correlation.
And at the same time GM Carlsen blunder more then a pawn that any good engine will see is a blunder.

Because Let's Check is garbage.

Posts : 206 Join date : 2020-11-28

mwyoung wrote:: [pgn][Event "Grand Slam Final 5th"]
[Site "Sao Paulo/Bilbao"]
[Date "2012.10.12"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B52"]
[WhiteElo "2843"]
[BlackElo "2780"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[EventDate "2012.09.24"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "10"]
[EventCountry "BRA"]
[EventCategory "22"]
[SourceTitle "CBM 151"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceVersion "1"]
[SourceVersionDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceQuality "1"]

{Engine/Game Correlation: White = 100%, Black = 40%.} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 5. c4 Nf6 6. Nc3 g6 7. d4 cxd4 8. Nxd4 Bg7 9. f3 Qc7 10. b3 Qa5 11. Bb2 Nc6 12. O-O O-O 13. Nce2 {-0.14/0} Rfd8 {0.00/0} (13... Rfd8 14. Kh1 Nxd4 {-0.14/30 Stockfish 14.1}) (13... Rfd8 14. Kh1 Nxd4 {-0.07/44 Stockfish 15}) (13... Rfd8 14. Qe1 Qxe1 {-0.05/24 Stockfish 9}) 14. Bc3 {0.00/0} (14. Kh1 Nxd4 15. Bxd4 {0.00/39 Stockfish 15/koala2}) (14. Nxc6 bxc6 15. Bc3 {-0.06/20 Deep Fritz 14 x64}) (14. Qc2 Nxd4 15. Bxd4 {0.00/25 Stockfish 14.1}) 14... Qb6 {-0.20/0} (14... Qc5 15. Kh1 d5 {0.00/27 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (14... Qb6 15. Kh1 d5 {-0.44/30 Stockfish 15}) (14... Qb6 15. Kh1 d5 {-0.26/19}) 15. Kh1 {-0.40/0} (15. Kh1 d5 16. Nxc6 {-0.20/36 Stockfish 14/Clare}) (15. Rf2 d5 16. Nxc6 {-0.17/27 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (15. Kh1 d5 16. Nxc6 {-0.26/44 Stockfish 14.1}) 15... d5 {-0.21/0} (15... d5 16. Nxc6 bxc6 {-0.40/34 Stockfish 9}) (15... d5 16. Nxc6 bxc6 {0.13/22 Fritz 16}) (15... d5 16. Nxc6 bxc6 {0.16/22 Fritz 18/Bertus1948}) 16. Nxc6 {-0.53/0} (16. Nxc6 bxc6 17. e5 {-0.21/31 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (16. Nxc6 bxc6 17. Qe1 {-0.07/28 Fritz 16}) (16. Nxc6 bxc6 17. cxd5 {0.06/28 Fritz 17}) 16... bxc6 {-0.05/0} (16... bxc6 17. Qe1 a5 {-0.53/32}) (16... bxc6 17. Qe1 a5 {-0.19/39 Stockfish 14.1/Clare}) (16... bxc6 17. cxd5 cxd5 {-0.07/25 Fritz 17}) 17. Qe1 {-0.18/0} (17. Qe1 a5 18. e5 {-0.05/32 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (17. e5 Ne8 18. Qe1 {-0.08/35 Stockfish 9}) (17. Qe1 a5 18. e5 {-0.07/28 Houdini 6.03 x64}) 17... Rdc8 {0.19/0} (17... a5 18. e5 Ne8 {-0.18/35 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (17... a5 18. e5 Ne8 {-0.24/36 Stockfish 15/Sindre Lyngsaunet}) (17... a5 18. e5 Ne8 {-0.20/27 Stockfish 14.1}) 18. e5 {0.33/0} (18. e5 Ne8 19. f4 {0.19/25 Deep Fritz 13}) (18. e5 Ne8 19. f4 {0.84/28 Stockfish 14}) (18. Rc1 dxe4 19. fxe4 {0.21/22 Fritz 16}) 18... Ne8 {0.24/0} (18... Ne8 19. f4 e6 {0.33/27 Houdini 6.03 x64}) (18... Ne8 19. f4 e6 {0.09/35 Stockfish 11/Kaos_00}) (18... Nd7 19. e6 fxe6 {0.98/20 Stockfish 14.1}) 19. e6 {-0.26/0} (19. f4 dxc4 20. f5 {0.24/27 Fritz 17}) (19. f4 e6 20. Ba5 {1.46/34 Stockfish 020622}) (19. e6 f5 20. cxd5 {0.15/24 Fritz 16}) 19... fxe6 {0.56/0} (19... f6 20. Ba5 Qa6 {-0.26/41 Stockfish 020622}) (19... f6 20. Ba5 Qa6 {0.00/29 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (19... f6 20. Ba5 Qa6 {0.11/25 Fritz 16}) 20. Nf4 {0.23/0} (20. Nf4 Bxc3 21. Qxc3 {0.56/29 Fritz 17}) (20. Nf4 Bxc3 21. Qxc3 {0.62/26 Stockfish 9}) (20. Nf4 c5 21. cxd5 {0.35/32 Stockfish 14/KillerBateman}) 20... Bxc3 {0.82/0} (20... c5 21. cxd5 c4 {0.23/38 Stockfish 14/KillerBateman}) (20... c5 21. cxd5 c4 {0.25/35 Stockfish 020622}) (20... c5 21. cxd5 c4 {0.47/27 Stockfish 14.1}) 21. Qxc3 {0.66/0} (21. Qxc3 Ng7 22. Rae1 {0.82/30 Stockfish 14}) (21. Qxc3 Ng7 22. c5 {0.85/26 Stockfish 15}) (21. Qxc3 d4 22. Qe1 {0.58/19 Stockfish 9}) 21... d4 {1.07/0} (21... Ng7 22. c5 Qc7 {0.66/41 Stockfish 8}) (21... d4 22. Qe1 c5 {0.61/40 Stockfish 8}) (21... d4 22. Qe1 c5 {0.51/39 Stockfish 8}) 22. Qd2 {0.01/0} (22. Qe1 c5 23. Nxe6 {1.07/37 Stockfish 11}) (22. Qe1 c5 23. Nxe6 {0.85/41 Stockfish 15}) (22. Qd2 Ng7 23. Rae1 {0.67/26 Stockfish 9}) 22... c5 {0.87/0} (22... c5 23. Rfe1 Ng7 {0.01/27 Fritz 16}) (22... c5 23. Rae1 Ng7 {0.71/31 Stockfish 020622}) (22... Ng7 23. Rae1 c5 {0.87/28 Stockfish 15}) 23. Rae1 {0.44/0} (23. Rae1 Ng7 24. g4 {0.87/34 Stockfish 020622}) (23. Rfe1 Ng7 24. Re5 {-0.15/24}) (23. Rae1 Rc6 24. h4 {0.88/24 Stockfish 9}) 23... Ng7 {0.33/0} (23... Rc6 24. h4 Ng7 {0.44/33 Stockfish 11}) (23... Ng7 24. g4 Qd6 {0.46/31 Stockfish 020622}) (23... Ng7 24. g4 Qd6 {0.10/27 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) 24. g4 {0.00/0} (24. g4 Qd6 25. Nd3 {0.33/29 Fritz 17}) (24. g4 Qc6 25. Kg2 {0.86/30 Stockfish 9}) (24. g4 Qd6 25. Re4 {0.00/26 Deep Fritz 13}) 24... Rc6 $6 {1.44/0} (24... Qd6 25. Re4 a5 {0.00/27 Fritz 16}) (24... Qd6 25. Re4 a5 {-0.04/17}) (24... Qd6 25. Nd3 a5 {0.38/34 Stockfish 020622}) 25. Nh3 $16 {1.79/0} (25. Nh3 e5 26. Qh6 {1.44/32 Stockfish 9}) (25. Nd3 Rf8 26. Qg5 {0.34/24 Deep Fritz 13}) (25. Nh3 e5 26. Qh6 {1.86/29 Stockfish 14}) 25... Ne8 $6 {4.26/0} (25... e5 26. Qh6 Ne6 {1.79/39 Stockfish 15}) (25... Kh8 26. Qh6 Qb8 {0.60/28 Fritz 16}) (25... Qb8 26. Qh6 Kh8 {1.01/27 Deep Fritz 13}) 26. Qh6 $18 {1.99/0} (26. Qh6 Nf6 27. Ng5 {4.26/39 Stockfish 150822}) (26. Qh6 Nf6 27. Ng5 {3.37/35}) (26. Qh6 Qa6 27. Ng5 {3.11/26}) 26... Nf6 {1.98/0} (26... Nf6 27. Ng5 Qa6 {1.99/29 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (26... Nf6 27. Ng5 Qa6 {1.89/27}) (26... Nf6 27. Ng5 Qa6 {3.17/24 Stockfish 15}) 27. Ng5 {3.71/0} (27. Ng5 Qa6 28. Re5 {1.98/28 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (27. Ng5 Qa6 28. Re5 {1.35/24 Deep Fritz 13/Clare}) (27. Ng5 Qa6 28. Re5 {2.30/27 Stockfish 15}) 27... d3 {3.20/0} (27... Qa6 28. Re5 Qc8 {3.71/43 Stockfish 14.1}) (27... Qa6 28. Re5 Qc8 {1.47/25 Fritz 17}) (27... e5 28. Rxe5 Re8 {0.81/18 Fritz 16}) 28. Re5 {2.25/0} (28. Re5 Kh8 29. Rd1 {3.20/28}) (28. Re5 Kh8 29. Rd1 {2.82/29 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (28. Re5 Qc7 29. Nxe6 {3.52/25 Stockfish 9}) 28... Kh8 {3.90/0} (28... Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 {2.25/27 Fritz 18/Bertus1948}) (28... Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 {2.84/29}) (28... Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 {1.83/19}) 29. Rd1 {6.08/0} (29. Rd1 Qa6 30. a4 {3.90/32 Komodo 14.1 64-bit/Pacificrabbit}) (29. h4 Qb8 30. Nxe6 {2.73/28}) (29. Rd1 Qa6 30. Re3 {2.51/25 Fritz 18}) 29... Qa6 (29... Qa6 30. a4 Qc8 {6.08/32}) (29... Qa6 30. Re3 Kg8 {2.56/26}) (29... Qa6 30. Rxd3 Qxa2 {4.99/33}) 30. a4 (30. a4 Qc8 31. Rxd3 Rb8 {3.36/39}) (30. a4 Qc8 31. Rxd3 a5 {5.98/37 Stockfish 15}) (30. a4 Rb8 31. Kg2 Qc8 {3.25/30}) 1-0

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[pgn][Event "Grand Slam Final 5th"]
[Site "Sao Paulo/Bilbao"]
[Date "2012.10.12"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B52"]
[WhiteElo "2843"]
[BlackElo "2780"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[EventDate "2012.09.24"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "10"]
[EventCountry "BRA"]
[EventCategory "22"]
[SourceTitle "CBM 151"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceVersion "1"]
[SourceVersionDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceQuality "1"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 {Stockfish 070922:} 5. c4 Nf6 6. Nc3 g6 7. d4 {OK} cxd4 {OK} 8. Nxd4 Bg7 9. f3 {OK} Qc7 10. b3 {OK} Qa5 {OK} 11. Bb2 {Inaccurate} Nc6 12. O-O {OK} O-O {OK} 13. Nce2 Rfd8 {OK} 14. Bc3 {Inaccurate} Qb6 {OK} 15. Kh1 {Best} d5 {OK} 16. Nxc6 {OK} bxc6 17. Qe1 {OK} Rdc8 $2 {[#] Mistake (1.6)} (17... a5 $15) 18. e5 $1 $16 {Strong} Ne8 19. e6 {Mistake (1.4)} (19. f4 $16) 19... fxe6 {Inaccurate} 20. Nf4 {OK} Bxc3 {Inaccurate} 21. Qxc3 d4 22. Qd2 c5 23. Rae1 {OK} Ng7 {OK} 24. g4 {OK} Rc6 $2 {Loses game (1.7)} (24... Qd6 $16) 25. Nh3 $18 {OK} Ne8 $2 {[#] Mistake (2.1)} (25... e5) 26. Qh6 $1 $18 {Strong} Nf6 27. Ng5 {Best} d3 $2 (27... Qa6) 28. Re5 $18 Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 30. a4 {Strong: White=2 Best: White=2 OK: White=10, Black=7 Inaccurate: White=2, Black=2 Mistake: White=1, Black=2 Loses game: Black=1. Weighted Error Value: White=0.10/Black=0.48 Centipawn loss: w=12/b=44} 1-0

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Let's Check vs Centipawn Analysis.

Using Let's Check GM Carlsen played the perfect game with 100% chess engine matches. , and could be cheating.

This is the same evidence that is being used against GM Niemann.

But Let's Check has major flaws, and is not indication that a player cheated.

Look at move 19.e4 by GM Magnus Carlsen. Let's Check gives GM Carlsen a 100% score of chess engine matches.
Despite the fact that GM Carlsen blundered at move 19 by 1.4 Centipawns.

So how can Let's Check say GM Carlsen played a perfect game with 100% chess engine correlation.
And at the same time GM Carlsen blunder more then a pawn that any good engine will see is a blunder.

Because Let's Check is garbage.

There are certainly chess engines that play 19.e6
You may define the engines that make this move not good engines but they are certainly at least at GM level(and it may be interesting to see what is the highest rating of engines that play 19.e6 after 3 minutes of search(movei that has CCRL rating of 2665 suggest 19.e6 at depth 17 and I guess the analysis used a stronger engine than movei to get 19.e6).

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Uri Blass wrote:

mwyoung wrote:: [pgn][Event "Grand Slam Final 5th"]
[Site "Sao Paulo/Bilbao"]
[Date "2012.10.12"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B52"]
[WhiteElo "2843"]
[BlackElo "2780"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[EventDate "2012.09.24"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "10"]
[EventCountry "BRA"]
[EventCategory "22"]
[SourceTitle "CBM 151"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceVersion "1"]
[SourceVersionDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceQuality "1"]

{Engine/Game Correlation: White = 100%, Black = 40%.} 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 5. c4 Nf6 6. Nc3 g6 7. d4 cxd4 8. Nxd4 Bg7 9. f3 Qc7 10. b3 Qa5 11. Bb2 Nc6 12. O-O O-O 13. Nce2 {-0.14/0} Rfd8 {0.00/0} (13... Rfd8 14. Kh1 Nxd4 {-0.14/30 Stockfish 14.1}) (13... Rfd8 14. Kh1 Nxd4 {-0.07/44 Stockfish 15}) (13... Rfd8 14. Qe1 Qxe1 {-0.05/24 Stockfish 9}) 14. Bc3 {0.00/0} (14. Kh1 Nxd4 15. Bxd4 {0.00/39 Stockfish 15/koala2}) (14. Nxc6 bxc6 15. Bc3 {-0.06/20 Deep Fritz 14 x64}) (14. Qc2 Nxd4 15. Bxd4 {0.00/25 Stockfish 14.1}) 14... Qb6 {-0.20/0} (14... Qc5 15. Kh1 d5 {0.00/27 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (14... Qb6 15. Kh1 d5 {-0.44/30 Stockfish 15}) (14... Qb6 15. Kh1 d5 {-0.26/19}) 15. Kh1 {-0.40/0} (15. Kh1 d5 16. Nxc6 {-0.20/36 Stockfish 14/Clare}) (15. Rf2 d5 16. Nxc6 {-0.17/27 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (15. Kh1 d5 16. Nxc6 {-0.26/44 Stockfish 14.1}) 15... d5 {-0.21/0} (15... d5 16. Nxc6 bxc6 {-0.40/34 Stockfish 9}) (15... d5 16. Nxc6 bxc6 {0.13/22 Fritz 16}) (15... d5 16. Nxc6 bxc6 {0.16/22 Fritz 18/Bertus1948}) 16. Nxc6 {-0.53/0} (16. Nxc6 bxc6 17. e5 {-0.21/31 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (16. Nxc6 bxc6 17. Qe1 {-0.07/28 Fritz 16}) (16. Nxc6 bxc6 17. cxd5 {0.06/28 Fritz 17}) 16... bxc6 {-0.05/0} (16... bxc6 17. Qe1 a5 {-0.53/32}) (16... bxc6 17. Qe1 a5 {-0.19/39 Stockfish 14.1/Clare}) (16... bxc6 17. cxd5 cxd5 {-0.07/25 Fritz 17}) 17. Qe1 {-0.18/0} (17. Qe1 a5 18. e5 {-0.05/32 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (17. e5 Ne8 18. Qe1 {-0.08/35 Stockfish 9}) (17. Qe1 a5 18. e5 {-0.07/28 Houdini 6.03 x64}) 17... Rdc8 {0.19/0} (17... a5 18. e5 Ne8 {-0.18/35 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (17... a5 18. e5 Ne8 {-0.24/36 Stockfish 15/Sindre Lyngsaunet}) (17... a5 18. e5 Ne8 {-0.20/27 Stockfish 14.1}) 18. e5 {0.33/0} (18. e5 Ne8 19. f4 {0.19/25 Deep Fritz 13}) (18. e5 Ne8 19. f4 {0.84/28 Stockfish 14}) (18. Rc1 dxe4 19. fxe4 {0.21/22 Fritz 16}) 18... Ne8 {0.24/0} (18... Ne8 19. f4 e6 {0.33/27 Houdini 6.03 x64}) (18... Ne8 19. f4 e6 {0.09/35 Stockfish 11/Kaos_00}) (18... Nd7 19. e6 fxe6 {0.98/20 Stockfish 14.1}) 19. e6 {-0.26/0} (19. f4 dxc4 20. f5 {0.24/27 Fritz 17}) (19. f4 e6 20. Ba5 {1.46/34 Stockfish 020622}) (19. e6 f5 20. cxd5 {0.15/24 Fritz 16}) 19... fxe6 {0.56/0} (19... f6 20. Ba5 Qa6 {-0.26/41 Stockfish 020622}) (19... f6 20. Ba5 Qa6 {0.00/29 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (19... f6 20. Ba5 Qa6 {0.11/25 Fritz 16}) 20. Nf4 {0.23/0} (20. Nf4 Bxc3 21. Qxc3 {0.56/29 Fritz 17}) (20. Nf4 Bxc3 21. Qxc3 {0.62/26 Stockfish 9}) (20. Nf4 c5 21. cxd5 {0.35/32 Stockfish 14/KillerBateman}) 20... Bxc3 {0.82/0} (20... c5 21. cxd5 c4 {0.23/38 Stockfish 14/KillerBateman}) (20... c5 21. cxd5 c4 {0.25/35 Stockfish 020622}) (20... c5 21. cxd5 c4 {0.47/27 Stockfish 14.1}) 21. Qxc3 {0.66/0} (21. Qxc3 Ng7 22. Rae1 {0.82/30 Stockfish 14}) (21. Qxc3 Ng7 22. c5 {0.85/26 Stockfish 15}) (21. Qxc3 d4 22. Qe1 {0.58/19 Stockfish 9}) 21... d4 {1.07/0} (21... Ng7 22. c5 Qc7 {0.66/41 Stockfish 8}) (21... d4 22. Qe1 c5 {0.61/40 Stockfish 8}) (21... d4 22. Qe1 c5 {0.51/39 Stockfish 8}) 22. Qd2 {0.01/0} (22. Qe1 c5 23. Nxe6 {1.07/37 Stockfish 11}) (22. Qe1 c5 23. Nxe6 {0.85/41 Stockfish 15}) (22. Qd2 Ng7 23. Rae1 {0.67/26 Stockfish 9}) 22... c5 {0.87/0} (22... c5 23. Rfe1 Ng7 {0.01/27 Fritz 16}) (22... c5 23. Rae1 Ng7 {0.71/31 Stockfish 020622}) (22... Ng7 23. Rae1 c5 {0.87/28 Stockfish 15}) 23. Rae1 {0.44/0} (23. Rae1 Ng7 24. g4 {0.87/34 Stockfish 020622}) (23. Rfe1 Ng7 24. Re5 {-0.15/24}) (23. Rae1 Rc6 24. h4 {0.88/24 Stockfish 9}) 23... Ng7 {0.33/0} (23... Rc6 24. h4 Ng7 {0.44/33 Stockfish 11}) (23... Ng7 24. g4 Qd6 {0.46/31 Stockfish 020622}) (23... Ng7 24. g4 Qd6 {0.10/27 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) 24. g4 {0.00/0} (24. g4 Qd6 25. Nd3 {0.33/29 Fritz 17}) (24. g4 Qc6 25. Kg2 {0.86/30 Stockfish 9}) (24. g4 Qd6 25. Re4 {0.00/26 Deep Fritz 13}) 24... Rc6 $6 {1.44/0} (24... Qd6 25. Re4 a5 {0.00/27 Fritz 16}) (24... Qd6 25. Re4 a5 {-0.04/17}) (24... Qd6 25. Nd3 a5 {0.38/34 Stockfish 020622}) 25. Nh3 $16 {1.79/0} (25. Nh3 e5 26. Qh6 {1.44/32 Stockfish 9}) (25. Nd3 Rf8 26. Qg5 {0.34/24 Deep Fritz 13}) (25. Nh3 e5 26. Qh6 {1.86/29 Stockfish 14}) 25... Ne8 $6 {4.26/0} (25... e5 26. Qh6 Ne6 {1.79/39 Stockfish 15}) (25... Kh8 26. Qh6 Qb8 {0.60/28 Fritz 16}) (25... Qb8 26. Qh6 Kh8 {1.01/27 Deep Fritz 13}) 26. Qh6 $18 {1.99/0} (26. Qh6 Nf6 27. Ng5 {4.26/39 Stockfish 150822}) (26. Qh6 Nf6 27. Ng5 {3.37/35}) (26. Qh6 Qa6 27. Ng5 {3.11/26}) 26... Nf6 {1.98/0} (26... Nf6 27. Ng5 Qa6 {1.99/29 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (26... Nf6 27. Ng5 Qa6 {1.89/27}) (26... Nf6 27. Ng5 Qa6 {3.17/24 Stockfish 15}) 27. Ng5 {3.71/0} (27. Ng5 Qa6 28. Re5 {1.98/28 Houdini 6.03 x64/Clare}) (27. Ng5 Qa6 28. Re5 {1.35/24 Deep Fritz 13/Clare}) (27. Ng5 Qa6 28. Re5 {2.30/27 Stockfish 15}) 27... d3 {3.20/0} (27... Qa6 28. Re5 Qc8 {3.71/43 Stockfish 14.1}) (27... Qa6 28. Re5 Qc8 {1.47/25 Fritz 17}) (27... e5 28. Rxe5 Re8 {0.81/18 Fritz 16}) 28. Re5 {2.25/0} (28. Re5 Kh8 29. Rd1 {3.20/28}) (28. Re5 Kh8 29. Rd1 {2.82/29 Komodo 10 64-bit/Andreyneves}) (28. Re5 Qc7 29. Nxe6 {3.52/25 Stockfish 9}) 28... Kh8 {3.90/0} (28... Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 {2.25/27 Fritz 18/Bertus1948}) (28... Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 {2.84/29}) (28... Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 {1.83/19}) 29. Rd1 {6.08/0} (29. Rd1 Qa6 30. a4 {3.90/32 Komodo 14.1 64-bit/Pacificrabbit}) (29. h4 Qb8 30. Nxe6 {2.73/28}) (29. Rd1 Qa6 30. Re3 {2.51/25 Fritz 18}) 29... Qa6 (29... Qa6 30. a4 Qc8 {6.08/32}) (29... Qa6 30. Re3 Kg8 {2.56/26}) (29... Qa6 30. Rxd3 Qxa2 {4.99/33}) 30. a4 (30. a4 Qc8 31. Rxd3 Rb8 {3.36/39}) (30. a4 Qc8 31. Rxd3 a5 {5.98/37 Stockfish 15}) (30. a4 Rb8 31. Kg2 Qc8 {3.25/30}) 1-0

[/pgn]

[pgn][Event "Grand Slam Final 5th"]
[Site "Sao Paulo/Bilbao"]
[Date "2012.10.12"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Carlsen, Magnus"]
[Black "Anand, Viswanathan"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "B52"]
[WhiteElo "2843"]
[BlackElo "2780"]
[PlyCount "59"]
[EventDate "2012.09.24"]
[EventType "tourn"]
[EventRounds "10"]
[EventCountry "BRA"]
[EventCategory "22"]
[SourceTitle "CBM 151"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceVersion "1"]
[SourceVersionDate "2012.11.13"]
[SourceQuality "1"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. Bb5+ Bd7 4. Bxd7+ Qxd7 {Stockfish 070922:} 5. c4 Nf6 6. Nc3 g6 7. d4 {OK} cxd4 {OK} 8. Nxd4 Bg7 9. f3 {OK} Qc7 10. b3 {OK} Qa5 {OK} 11. Bb2 {Inaccurate} Nc6 12. O-O {OK} O-O {OK} 13. Nce2 Rfd8 {OK} 14. Bc3 {Inaccurate} Qb6 {OK} 15. Kh1 {Best} d5 {OK} 16. Nxc6 {OK} bxc6 17. Qe1 {OK} Rdc8 $2 {[#] Mistake (1.6)} (17... a5 $15) 18. e5 $1 $16 {Strong} Ne8 19. e6 {Mistake (1.4)} (19. f4 $16) 19... fxe6 {Inaccurate} 20. Nf4 {OK} Bxc3 {Inaccurate} 21. Qxc3 d4 22. Qd2 c5 23. Rae1 {OK} Ng7 {OK} 24. g4 {OK} Rc6 $2 {Loses game (1.7)} (24... Qd6 $16) 25. Nh3 $18 {OK} Ne8 $2 {[#] Mistake (2.1)} (25... e5) 26. Qh6 $1 $18 {Strong} Nf6 27. Ng5 {Best} d3 $2 (27... Qa6) 28. Re5 $18 Kh8 29. Rd1 Qa6 30. a4 {Strong: White=2 Best: White=2 OK: White=10, Black=7 Inaccurate: White=2, Black=2 Mistake: White=1, Black=2 Loses game: Black=1. Weighted Error Value: White=0.10/Black=0.48 Centipawn loss: w=12/b=44} 1-0

[/pgn]

Let's Check vs Centipawn Analysis.

Using Let's Check GM Carlsen played the perfect game with 100% chess engine matches. , and could be cheating.

This is the same evidence that is being used against GM Niemann.

But Let's Check has major flaws, and is not indication that a player cheated.

Look at move 19.e4 by GM Magnus Carlsen. Let's Check gives GM Carlsen a 100% score of chess engine matches.
Despite the fact that GM Carlsen blundered at move 19 by 1.4 Centipawns.

So how can Let's Check say GM Carlsen played a perfect game with 100% chess engine correlation.
And at the same time GM Carlsen blunder more then a pawn that any good engine will see is a blunder.

Because Let's Check is garbage.

There are certainly chess engines that play 19.e6
You may define the engines that make this move not good engines but they are certainly at least at GM level(and it may be interesting to see what is the highest rating of engines that play 19.e6 after 3 minutes of search(movei that has CCRL rating of 2665 suggest 19.e6 at depth 17 and I guess the analysis used a stronger engine than movei to get 19.e6).

And that is why the data is garbage. Let's check is not designed for cheat detection. Are you suggesting GM Carlsen did cheat with a 100% match. And there are more players with 100% Let's check games.

If it were up to Grandmasters to determine if other Grandmasters cheated in chess. There would only be one Grandmaster left in chess. lol!

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Another person from my chess club from years past. Where GM Niemann was accused of cheating by GM Magnus Carlsen. Who also knows the facts, and the people that are involved.

And this is why I will not go on GMHikaru's channel. I know him and the guy is a idiot. Who cares nothing about facts, only views.

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Maybe GMHikaru can do a demonstration of the chess butt plug. It would get massive views.

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A billion dollar company bluffing GMHikaru. Because that has never happened ever in the history of the world. Smile

Not very convincing.....

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