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Henk




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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyMon Nov 08, 2021 5:04 pm

No did not mean covid. If you get something else hospitals are full. Mental hospitals full as well.

Maybe churches should let only unvaccinated people in. The more subcultures the less get infected.
Why share air with the devil. Can't convert them all.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyTue Nov 09, 2021 8:48 am

7 day incidence in germany now 213,7

Highlight is the east german Saxonia.
With 483,7 .

Here many inhabitants did not want vaccination and voted for conspiracy idiots and right wing AFD.

(In the elections in saxonia afd was strongest party and had 25,7% while CDU 22,2 and die linke 11,5 SPD 16,7)

I guess many of the AFD voters will die out in the fourth wave.
So this gives some hope for the future.


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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyTue Nov 09, 2021 9:50 am

Mclane wrote:
7 day incidence in germany now 213,7

Highlight is the east german Saxonia.
With 483,7 .

Here many inhabitants did not want vaccination and voted for conspiracy idiots and right wing AFD.

(In the elections in saxonia afd was strongest party and had 25,7% while CDU 22,2 and die linke 11,5 SPD 16,7)

I guess many of the AFD voters will die out in the fourth wave.
So this gives some hope for the future.


Absolutely: anyone who isn't 100% behind the Holy EU in its Brussels/Strasbourg Vaticans deserves to die horribly.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyTue Nov 09, 2021 10:22 am

The dinosaurs also talked like you. Or the Catholic church.
We know how this ended.

How is the incidence value of „uk“ doing ?!
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyTue Nov 09, 2021 10:50 am

In bavaria there is an area (miesbach) with 868,4. !!!
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyTue Nov 09, 2021 11:21 am

Mclane wrote:
...Or the Catholic church. We know how this ended.


That was the point! Smile

Funny how you disapprove of the Catholic Church, but approve of its successor - the EU. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyTue Nov 09, 2021 10:06 pm

A hospital chef said from 26 on his intensive care station are 21 unvaccinated,
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyTue Nov 09, 2021 11:12 pm

Mclane wrote:
How is the incidence value of „uk“ doing ?!


High, but on its way down. Haven't heard anyone talking about it this week. Still the odd person wearing a mask in the supermarket.

I've booked my booster jab for Saturday.


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PostSubject: get vaccin for covid or not   Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyWed Nov 10, 2021 6:01 pm

Who still believes Covid vaccins like Pfizer will end the pandemic?

I personally believe more in the covid pill Molnupiravir. Pfizer also has an upcoming pill for covid.
And I believe in a healthy lifestyle.
I also believe in food that can inhibit covid, like green tea, grapes, dark chocolate and Quinine drinks.
Or it can lower the severity of a covid infection.
I'm not vaccinated, I would take the vaccine if I would see that it works in country's with high levels of vaccination.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyWed Nov 10, 2021 6:11 pm

Jonathan003 wrote:
I'm not vaccinated, I would take the vaccine if I would see that it works in country's with high levels of vaccination.


We have high vaccination rates. Granted, we have high infection rates as well - but the death rate has remained low. The vaccination has protected people against serious illness.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyWed Nov 10, 2021 6:38 pm

I'm worried about possible long time side effects of the vaccines. What if we have to take 4 or 5 or 6 dosses. How will it effect our immune system in the long run? What if variants of covid come ore some other dangerous virus. I think nobody knows the answers to these questions.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyWed Nov 10, 2021 8:13 pm

It is a shame.  Unvaccinated people kicking vaccinated people out of  hospital who really needed help. Operations cancelled.

O wait everybody gets covid so what about getting covid. Will that be healthy for your unvaccinated body.

Not to talk about polio patients.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyWed Nov 10, 2021 9:25 pm

Here in Belgium many peoples ending up in hospital are fully vaccinated. So I don't feel guilty for not being vaccinated. I believe in testing for covid but that's expensive and also not easy to get. Coved pass linked to a recent negative test that's what we need I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyWed Nov 10, 2021 10:56 pm

The amount of people in intensive care who had been vaccinated before is very low in relation to the amount of people not beeing vaccinated before.

The majority of people in hospitals are not vaccinated. And in hospital they all say: “if we would have been vaccinated all this trouble and pain would be less.” They feel depressed that they decided this way. The doctor and nurses roll eyes when they listen to this standard excuse.

The relation is : from 26 infected 21 are not vaccinated.


This was all known for Months !!!! Israel had exactly these experiences with the delta virus.
It was known that the virus is much more aggressive.
And that it effects vaccinated too.
But all countries enjoyed summer holidays and went into long sleep doing nothing.

Now it is suddenly winter. How surprising. Winter and the infection numbers increase.
Thats no surprise.


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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyWed Nov 10, 2021 11:30 pm

New information was that it does not matter if you are vaccinated or not you still can infect other people.

Better do soft measures too early than lockdown too late.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyWed Nov 10, 2021 11:34 pm

Henk wrote:
New information was that it does not matter if you are vaccinated or not you still can infect other people.

Better do soft measures too early than lockdown too late.

The difference is that when you have the desease, the pain and risc is not so high. While for the not vaccinated its often deadly.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyWed Nov 10, 2021 11:35 pm

Jonathan003 wrote:
...I don't feel guilty for not being vaccinated. I believe in testing for covid but that's expensive and also not easy to get. Coved pass linked to a recent negative test that's what we need I think.


You're a "free rider". I absolutely do not intend to be rude by saying that - it's actually a technical term (link), but unfortunately it invokes negative emotions in many people.

Lateral flow Covid tests are free here - you can go to the chemist and get one.

If you get vaccinated and then catch the disease, your period of suffering is likely to be shorter and less intense, and you're less likely to suffer from long term consequences.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyThu Nov 11, 2021 5:19 am

Germany now 249,1 incidence 7days.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyThu Nov 11, 2021 10:27 am

British number went up yesterday. I hope it's a blip.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyThu Nov 11, 2021 12:17 pm

Next measures in the Netherlands: Verboten for Juden. Unless you have number 666 on your front head. Remember Hitler called himself a Christian.  This is what crisis does to people.

Sorry for this bad joke. Forbidden for the unvaccinated. What is the difference. 2G replacing SS.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyThu Nov 11, 2021 1:34 pm

TheSelfImprover wrote:
Lateral flow Covid tests are free here - you can go to the chemist and get one.

Do these free tests count for the covid pass to enter restaurants, cafe's, fitness centra ect...
Here in Belgium you can get a self test at the pharmacy for 8 Euro, but this doesn't count for covid safe pass.
You need a quick test done at the pharmacy that cost 27 Euro. Then the covid pass count for two days.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyThu Nov 11, 2021 4:11 pm

One doesn't need any papers to visit restaurants, cafes and fitness centres etc here. I suspect that the reason you need an "official" test in Belgium is that too many people just cannot be trusted.


NEW DISCOVERY:

It might be possible to create a long lasting vaccine against ALL coronaviruses (including the common cold) by attacking the proteins that a coronavirus needs in the earliest stage of its existence - link.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyThu Nov 11, 2021 4:24 pm

Number of infected booming in the Netherlands. But Belgium even worse.
Say 1% positive. Government too late as usual (turtle)
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyFri Nov 12, 2021 1:29 pm

TheSelfImprover wrote:
British number went up yesterday. I hope it's a blip.


It's not a blip: British numbers are on a rising trend again.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 15 EmptyFri Nov 12, 2021 2:14 pm

We are getting a soft lockdown for three weeks. Soft usually does not work. So will be a long winter.
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