Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:19 am
OK - today is the 28th December 2021, and on this day, I am introducing a unifying simplification for both those who follow a religion and those who don't.
Each time you have a choice to make, be it:
* a choice between one action and another
* a choice between doing something or not doing it
* a choice between doing it now or delaying it until later
...that choice, in some small way, comes down to a choice between good and bad. The good choice is the one that improves the human condition - even if only in a tiny way. The bad choice is the one that microscopically worsens the human condition.
Try to make the good choice.
Sometimes, you might need to fight bad forces, but whenever possible, support the positive forces in preference to opposing the negative ones: your time is better spent championing good ideas than tearing down bad ones.
Today's UK infection number is an all-time high - 106,122. The previous peak was the 17th December with 92,500.
The problem for us might be too many heath care staff self isolating at the same time. Too many people getting seriously is looking a bit unlikely now.
Another new all-time high today: 119,789
Another record breaking day!
...but perhaps an unwanted record...
Today's infection number 122,186
Per quoted post, four days ago it was 122,186. Now it's 129,471.
Today's UK infection number is an all-time high - 106,122. The previous peak was the 17th December with 92,500.
Another new all-time high today: 119,789
Today's infection number 122,186
For the first time since 24th Dec we have a number for the whole of Britain - and that number is 183,037 (this is less than France, which reported 208,000).
Today's UK infection number is an all-time high - 106,122. The previous peak was the 17th December with 92,500.
Another new all-time high today: 119,789
Today's infection number 122,186
For the first time since 24th Dec we have a number for the whole of Britain - and that number is 183,037 (this is less than France, which reported 208,000).
Today's UK infection number is an all-time high - 106,122. The previous peak was the 17th December with 92,500.
Another new all-time high today: 119,789
Today's infection number 122,186
For the first time since 24th Dec we have a number for the whole of Britain - and that number is 183,037 (this is less than France, which reported 208,000).
Still rising - 189,213 today.
Still rising: today's infection number is 189,846. Too soon to say for sure, but maybe levelling off?
Mclane
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The booster has its effect. I feel terrible. Obviously something in me fights the viruses. But it is not stopping me from doing computerchess. So there is still enough energy in me.
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:05 pm
Israel, whom I have previously praised as a shining example of controlling Covid-19, is now seeing its infection rate climb vertically.
Mclane
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:32 pm
Yes the new variation is like a WALL, a high tsunami wall.
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:11 pm
Today, no figures for the whole of Britain (Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have not reported numbers today), but England's infection number is 162,572 (was 160,276 yesterday).
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Sat Jan 01, 2022 6:19 pm
Mclane wrote:
Yes the new variation is like a WALL, a high tsunami wall.
Even a research station in the antarctic has an outbreak - link!
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:18 am
1)I do not know what are the rules in other countries but I believe that there are some rules in israel that are not justified that prevent freedom from people who are positive for corona(I believe preventing freedom from people is justified only when the advantage is clear and I think that here it is even not clear if there is an advantage).
There is a rule that say that people who get positive result must be isolated and cannot get out of home.
I believe that the practical result is that there are young people who believe the Pandemie is not dangerous for them and prefer not to check if they are positive even when they do not feel well because they do not want to be isolated in the bad case.
In case of no limitation part of these people are going to be tested and knowing that they are positive is going to change their behaviour even if they are not isolated because there is something in the middle between being isolated and normal behaviour and I believe that most people who do not agree to be isolated do not want other to be infected.
Another advantage of no limitation is that if they get positive result they may tell friends that they met that they got positive result so their friends are going to be tested and may discover that they are positive earlier.
2)Personally I believe in Vaccinations against the virus but unfortunately I see no data to prove the people who are against vaccinations that the demage is not greater than the advantage.
I see no data to prove that Getting vaccinated help to prevent death. People who are against vaccinations claim that it cause people to die from different reasons and not from corona.
I wonder if there is data to compare number of deaths of people who got vaccinated to the expected value without vaccinations at different group ages. The problem is of course also how to calculate the expected data without vaccinations because only age is not enough and people who get vaccinations may have a different medical history relative to people who did not get vaccinations.
We need to have some model of the probability of people to die in the next year based on age and medical history and compare the difference between observed and expected for people who got vaccinations and people who did not get vaccinations.
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:21 am
Mclane wrote:
I think we will all end under this tsunami. I was boostered this morning with moderna
And it's only a palliative, the wait is for a modified vaccine from Pfizer and Moderna.
Again we are dependent on the Americans
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:39 pm
Germany 222,7
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Sun Jan 02, 2022 1:39 pm
Uri Blass wrote:
1)I do not know what are the rules in other countries but I believe that there are some rules in israel that are not justified that prevent freedom from people who are positive for corona(I believe preventing freedom from people is justified only when the advantage is clear and I think that here it is even not clear if there is an advantage).
There is a rule that say that people who get positive result must be isolated and cannot get out of home.
I believe that the practical result is that there are young people who believe the Pandemie is not dangerous for them and prefer not to check if they are positive even when they do not feel well because they do not want to be isolated in the bad case.
In case of no limitation part of these people are going to be tested and knowing that they are positive is going to change their behaviour even if they are not isolated because there is something in the middle between being isolated and normal behaviour and I believe that most people who do not agree to be isolated do not want other to be infected.
Another advantage of no limitation is that if they get positive result they may tell friends that they met that they got positive result so their friends are going to be tested and may discover that they are positive earlier.
2)Personally I believe in Vaccinations against the virus but unfortunately I see no data to prove the people who are against vaccinations that the demage is not greater than the advantage.
I see no data to prove that Getting vaccinated help to prevent death. People who are against vaccinations claim that it cause people to die from different reasons and not from corona.
I wonder if there is data to compare number of deaths of people who got vaccinated to the expected value without vaccinations at different group ages. The problem is of course also how to calculate the expected data without vaccinations because only age is not enough and people who get vaccinations may have a different medical history relative to people who did not get vaccinations.
We need to have some model of the probability of people to die in the next year based on age and medical history and compare the difference between observed and expected for people who got vaccinations and people who did not get vaccinations.
Well Sweden has had a relatively good pandemic, so certainly a case can be made for avoiding being overly restrictive.
Right now, Britain is in a good place IMO: we have very high levels of seropositivity (antibodies). This means we can combine high levels of infection with low levels of serious illness. I think that when the Omicron wave has finished with Britain, we'll have good herd immunity to any future varieties.
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:49 pm
TheSelfImprover wrote:
Today, no figures for the whole of Britain (Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have not reported numbers today), but England's infection number is 162,572 (was 160,276 yesterday).
Just for fun and variety*, today the number is for England and Wales - and the number is 137,583 . This is higher than last Sunday, but lower than the number for England alone yesterday (see quoted text above). We've had false dawns before, but it's just possible that this could be the beginning of the end of Covid as a serious issue for Britain...
*seriously - this is the only available data: Scotland and Northern Ireland data missing for some reason
Mclane
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:42 am
Today, no figures for the whole of Britain (Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales have not reported numbers today), but England's infection number is 162,572 (was 160,276 yesterday).
No figures for the whole of Britain again (I would expect these to be available again by Wednesday at the latest), so today's figure is for England and Scotland, but not Wales and Northern Ireland. All clear? Good.
Today's number is: 157,758
I've seen reports that Omicron is spreading rapidly in Northern Ireland right now, but IMO the overall picture indicates the start of a decline in the infection rate.
I hope Henk and Mclane got their boosters soon enough to avoid any serious issues with Omicron.
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:25 am
The good news: more and more scientists are saying that the worst of the pandemic is now behind us.
The bad news: a new variant has been discovered in France - link. We don't yet know whether this variant is going to be harmful.
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Subject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie Tue Jan 04, 2022 11:09 am
I am awarding my "Best Action Of The Day" award for yesterday to Germany. The Germans lined up 700 sheep and goats in the shape of a syringe to encourage people to get vaccinated - link.
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