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Mclane

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Germany 1017,4
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyThu Jan 27, 2022 10:40 am

Mclane wrote:
Germany 1017,4


Gravity defying!


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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyFri Jan 28, 2022 1:26 pm

TheSelfImprover wrote:
One piece of evidence in China's favour: New Zealand is also exceptional. New Zealand's infection chart doesn't resemble China's, but one thing they both have in common is that neither of them have seen the rapid Omicron jump yet.


New Zealand's infection chart now looking as though Omicron has finally arrived.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyFri Jan 28, 2022 1:47 pm

One can divide figures by four if Omnicron at least 75% less harmfull than delta.

But we get a natural lockdown if employees have to stay at home when  they have corona.

For instance less train and busses in the Netherlands for many employees in quarantaine.  

So have to find an alternative route and take the wrong turn.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyFri Jan 28, 2022 2:30 pm

Henk wrote:
One can divide figures by four if Omnicron at least 75% less harmfull than delta.

But we get a natural lockdown if employees have to stay at home when  they have corona.

For instance less train and busses in the Netherlands for many employees in quarantaine.  

So have to find an alternative route and take the wrong turn.


Less public transport means less spread of the disease, which means a longer time to OP. My definitions:

OS:  Omicron start date

OP:  Omicron peak date

OC:  Omicron clear date

For South Africa, OS was 23-Nov-21, OP was 15-Dec-21* and OC has not been reached yet: OP infections were around 26,000 per day*, and the current infection rate is around 4,000 infections per day*.


*numbers/dates my best interpretation from the infection chart. In these cases, the exact date/number are difficult to call.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptySat Jan 29, 2022 9:54 am

More than 400.000 in the Netherlands were infected last week. So that means at least 1:45 infected.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptySat Jan 29, 2022 10:34 am

I wanted to see if there is a correlation between vaccination and defeating the covid so I looked for data about percentage of vaccinations in different places.

I found the link at the bottom of this post that is clearly wrong because if I add Gibraltar then I find that 121% of the population is fully vaccinated against Covid19 that is clearly wrong.

It cannot be more than 100%

Is there a reliable source of information about share of people vaccinated against COVID-19?

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Edit:I can add that I am surprised by the low number of people who are dead from COVID-19 in the countries that are low in the list:
Ethoipia,Nigeria,Egypt

The worst case is Egypt and even they have clearly less victims relative to the population when I compare to the average of the world so
I wonder if vaccination really help against the corona(maybe it help people who get vaccination but in some way cause the corona to be more dangerous for people who did not get vaccination).
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptySat Jan 29, 2022 2:56 pm

Uri Blass wrote:
I wanted to see if there is a correlation between vaccination and defeating the covid so I looked for data about percentage of vaccinations in different places.

I found the link at the bottom of this post that is clearly wrong because if I add Gibraltar then I find that 121% of the population is fully vaccinated against Covid19 that is clearly wrong.

It cannot be more than 100%

Is there a reliable source of information about share of people vaccinated against COVID-19?

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Edit:I can add that I am surprised by the low number of people who are dead from COVID-19 in the countries that are low in the list:
Ethoipia,Nigeria,Egypt

The worst case is Egypt and even they have clearly less victims relative to the population when I compare to the average of the world so
I wonder if vaccination really help against the corona(maybe it help people who get vaccination but in some way cause the corona to be more dangerous for people who did not get vaccination).


IMO, it's likely that people in rich countries are exposed to far fewer diseases than is healthy for them, resulting in poorly tuned immune systems that are not well able to fight off disease, and which are more prone to auto-immune disorders like allergies, inflammation, arthritis, asthma etc.

More importantly, though, you cannot directly compare stats between different countries. I have "inside information" that Poland is doing a lot less testing than other European countries. I only look at the shape of its infection chart - not the actual numbers. It is clear from the shape that Omicron has recently arrived in Poland.

The way we count deaths in Britain is ludicrous: if someone tested positive for Covid within 2-3 weeks of dying, this counts as a Covid death. I'm guessing that in the countries you mentioned (Ethiopia, Nigeria, Egypt) they count Covid deaths more sensibly. They might also be failing to count some genuine Covid deaths.

In most countries, vaccination is known to both reduce the risk of infection and to reduce the risk of serious illness in the event of infection.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptySun Jan 30, 2022 11:06 am

Henk wrote:
More than 400.000 in the Netherlands were infected last week. So that means at least 1:45 infected.
O wait. Counting fails in the Netherlands due to overflow. Correct figure was about 500.000. So 1:36 infected last week.

When figures are growing with factor two every two weeks then within 10-12 weeks everbody will be infected.

But they are expecting peak in March.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptySun Jan 30, 2022 11:19 am

Henk wrote:
But they are expecting peak in March.


Looking at the 30 day infection chart, the Netherlands might be experiencing its Omicron peak right now. Too soon to say for sure - no clear downward trend yet.
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Germany 1156,8
Still rising.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyMon Jan 31, 2022 11:37 am

Mclane wrote:
Germany 1176,8


Maybe we're seeing the start of the German Omicron peak? Again, like the Netherlands, it's too soon to say for sure because there's no downward trend yet.

The USA is well passed the peak and is now on a strong downward trend. France has recently peaked and is now on a downward trend.

China continues to be exceptional!
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyMon Jan 31, 2022 4:15 pm

New Dutch record: 112000 infected today. Going loose or nuts.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyMon Jan 31, 2022 5:01 pm

Henk wrote:
New Dutch record: 112000 infected today. Going loose or nuts.


That's a third higher than the previous record: it doesn't make sense unless something has changed.
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Germany 1206,2
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyTue Feb 01, 2022 10:14 am

Yesterday's numbers for Britain, Germany and the Netherlands are all counterintuitive.

Something strange/unusual/unexpected has happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyTue Feb 01, 2022 11:00 am

Maybe registration systems can't keep up.

Next: Carnaval, apres ski. hi hi hi highway to hell

By the way figures in US going down.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyTue Feb 01, 2022 12:51 pm

Henk wrote:
By the way figures in US going down.


Yes - South Africa, my model for how I expect other countries to chart, looks as I'd expect as well.
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Mystery resolved: from yesterday, Britain started counting reinfections - link.

This will cause a one-off change in the shape of the curve (and the 7 day average curve for the next 7 days) - but it's annoying because the shape of the curve is what I have been looking at.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyWed Feb 02, 2022 10:55 pm

Initially, we were told that 60-70% of the population would need immunity to give a community/country herd immunity. It turns out that in the case of Covid, the actual number is about 90-95% (link). This explains to me why the disease has remained in circulation MUCH longer than I had ever expected.

Britain's seropositivity is well over 95% now, so we should be OK for the next few months. Deaths and hospitalisations remained low here during the Omicron wave.

Omicron will get seropositivity to a high level all over the world, so I'm mystified as to why the WHO (World Health Organisation) say we're only half way through the pandemic? To make "good" (in the sense of helping the virus to spread) mutations, it has to stay in people for a long time: with so much seropositivity around, it won't be able to IMO.
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PostSubject: Re: Covid 19 Pandemie    Covid 19 Pandemie  - Page 25 EmptyThu Feb 03, 2022 5:58 pm

Last week 600.000 were tested positive. Joehoe 1:30 infected now in the Netherlands.
Problem not enough caregivers now. Heard in one center half were ill.

But they are only focussing on  number of people in Hospital. (Idiots)

On the other hand the more infected the sooner it will be over (unless you don't survive or get post traumatic stress disorder or something)
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