Covid 19 Pandemie

Henk wrote:

Problem not enough caregivers now. Heard in one center half were ill.

We had this problem around the time of the peak (and for around a week afterwards IIRC). Then restrictions were reduced: self-isolation reduced to 5 days, negative self-test good enough to return to work etc. Also, wearing of masks in shops is now optional, and the number of people wearing them is steadily declining.

I know I called it wrongly before, but again, both the Dutch and German charts look as though they **might** be peaking.

By changing the way infection numbers are counted, British charts have been made wholly useless for 7 days.

TheSelfImprover wrote:

By changing the way infection numbers are counted, British charts have been made wholly useless for 7 days.

For a short while, I'll be looking at this chart daily - link. It uses the old way of counting, and it gets updated around 10 hours sooner than the Google chart. Looking at it, our infection decline is looking like South Africa (with them being a few weeks ahead of us). Roughly speaking, the main trend is strongly downwards, with some level and upward blips on the way down.

Germany 1349,5

Israel is an interesting case: they were well ahead of the rest of us in getting vaccinated, but in sharp contrast to Britain, their death rate has shot up during the Omicron wave:





This article gives some thoughtful reasons - link. A couple of differences between Britain and Israel from myself:

1. Britain has had more natural infection over the preceding Covid-19 waves

2. Britain's 3rd vaccinations (the "booster" vaccination) was closer to the Omicron outbreak than Israel's was - and we know that Covid immunity fades over time (Israel has started a 4th booster vaccination, which is known to boost immunity hugely, but it came too late)

GERMANY 1388,0

Booster only works for three months. Maybe the more infected the sooner it will be over.

Uri Blass wrote:

I wanted to see if there is a correlation between vaccination and defeating the covid so I looked for data about percentage of vaccinations in different places.

I found the link at the bottom of this post that is clearly wrong because if I add Gibraltar then I find that 121% of the population is fully vaccinated against Covid19 that is clearly wrong.

It cannot be more than 100%

Is there a reliable source of information about share of people vaccinated against COVID-19?

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Edit:I can add that I am surprised by the low number of people who are dead from COVID-19 in the countries that are low in the list:
Ethoipia,Nigeria,Egypt

The worst case is Egypt and even they have clearly less victims relative to the population when I compare to the average of the world so
I wonder if vaccination really help against the corona(maybe it help people who get vaccination but in some way cause the corona to be more dangerous for people who did not get vaccination).

Maybe it is just a big lie that vaccines are helping against Covid?
In the beginning of the rollout of the vaccines someone told me that peoples where al dying in poor countries because they don't have vaccines against Covid.
If you look at the numbers the opposite is true.

Jonathan003 wrote:

Uri Blass wrote:

I wanted to see if there is a correlation between vaccination and defeating the covid so I looked for data about percentage of vaccinations in different places.

I found the link at the bottom of this post that is clearly wrong because if I add Gibraltar then I find that 121% of the population is fully vaccinated against Covid19 that is clearly wrong.

It cannot be more than 100%

Is there a reliable source of information about share of people vaccinated against COVID-19?

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Edit:I can add that I am surprised by the low number of people who are dead from COVID-19 in the countries that are low in the list:
Ethoipia,Nigeria,Egypt

The worst case is Egypt and even they have clearly less victims relative to the population when I compare to the average of the world so
I wonder if vaccination really help against the corona(maybe it help people who get vaccination but in some way cause the corona to be more dangerous for people who did not get vaccination).

Maybe it is just a big lie that vaccines are helping against Covid?
In the beginning of the rollout of the vaccines someone told me that peoples where al dying in poor countries because they don't have vaccines against Covid.
If you look at the numbers the opposite is true.

I refer you to the answer I gave to Uri's post - link.

A quick update to that response: in Britain, someone who tests positive within 4 weeks of dying is counted as a Covid-19 death, whether or not Covid-19 was the cause of death.

TheSelfImprover wrote:

Jonathan003 wrote:

Uri Blass wrote:

I wanted to see if there is a correlation between vaccination and defeating the covid so I looked for data about percentage of vaccinations in different places.

I found the link at the bottom of this post that is clearly wrong because if I add Gibraltar then I find that 121% of the population is fully vaccinated against Covid19 that is clearly wrong.

It cannot be more than 100%

Is there a reliable source of information about share of people vaccinated against COVID-19?

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

Edit:I can add that I am surprised by the low number of people who are dead from COVID-19 in the countries that are low in the list:
Ethoipia,Nigeria,Egypt

The worst case is Egypt and even they have clearly less victims relative to the population when I compare to the average of the world so
I wonder if vaccination really help against the corona(maybe it help people who get vaccination but in some way cause the corona to be more dangerous for people who did not get vaccination).

Maybe it is just a big lie that vaccines are helping against Covid?
In the beginning of the rollout of the vaccines someone told me that peoples where al dying in poor countries because they don't have vaccines against Covid.
If you look at the numbers the opposite is true.

I refer you to the answer I gave to Uri's post - link.

A quick update to that response: in Britain, someone who tests positive within 4 weeks of dying is counted as a Covid-19 death, whether or not Covid-19 was the cause of death.

I understand it is hard to know the the truth about these things. I think nobody knows it they just pretend like they do.

Jonathan003 wrote:

I understand it is hard to know the the truth about these things. I think nobody knows it they just pretend like they do.

We do know that in countries in which most people have been vaccinated, those who haven't been vaccinated are more likely to suffer severe illness (hospitalisation or death).

In Rotterdam probably at least 1:20 infected now. Hi, hi, hi. And that's where they are demonstrating against Corona policy.

TheSelfImprover wrote:

Jonathan003 wrote:

I understand it is hard to know the the truth about these things. I think nobody knows it they just pretend like they do.

We do know that in countries in which most people have been vaccinated, those who haven't been vaccinated are more likely to suffer severe illness (hospitalisation or death).

Did you checked these facts yourself? Ore did you just watched some graphics and read some articles online?
let me guess  
I suspect the second is true. There is a big difference between saying something is proven and actually proof someting.

There isn't time to fact check every piece of information.

I did once have a job in which I had to read literally thousands of reports. At that time, I developed a the ability to look at a report and to know in about 30 seconds whether it was good quality or not. Hopefully, some of that ability has stayed with me.

Last week 824000 positive. So that would be 1:22 positive in the Netherlands. They say they are expecting peak soon.

Henk wrote:

Last week 824000 positive. So that would be 1:22 positive in the Netherlands. They say they are expecting peak soon.

There's a big blip on the Netherlands chart (link): has your country done the same as Britain and changed the way reinfections are counted?

It's too soon to be confident, but looking at the 30 day infection chart for China, I'm seeing something I haven't seen before: it seems as though the chart is starting to move upwards. Has Omicron landed???

394.759 today. But they have problems with counting. Mean is 118000 per day (last week).

No rules. Party-time.

Germany 1465,4

Netherlands: 844.766 last week. So 1:21 positive. Can't play soccer.

The material is a little complicated, and I've only read it quickly, but here's what I think it's saying: the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines cause the body to create poisonous proteins that then circulate in the bloodstream for up to two months.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/health-nightmare-alert-over-covid-jabs-injecting-a-heart-damaging-toxin/

Netherlands: 877.209 last week. So still 1:21 positive. Maybe stabilizing now.

Germany 1474,3

Peak reached

Omnicron b.a2 unstoppable. May double every 8 days.

Now they are reporting 482.695 new positives last week in the Netherlands. That means 1:37.
R= 0.98

Stay positive.

The world takes a big step in the direction of global herd immunity:

TheSelfImprover wrote:

It's too soon to be confident, but looking at the 30 day infection chart for China, I'm seeing something I haven't seen before: it seems as though the chart is starting to move upwards. Has Omicron landed???

Looks as though it was just a blip. However - Hong Kong now has a full scale Omicron infection - link. That article reveals that China is running a "zero Covid" policy. In Hong Kong, though, they've now accepted, as so many countries have before, that keeping Omicron out is just not realistic. The article explains, though, that because zero Covid is the plan, vaccination levels are much lower than other countries - and this is a problem for them.