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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptyWed Sep 15, 2021 4:34 pm

In the game was a strange "bug". I was unable to reproduce it, but it seems
Rebel Mystery tried a SUPER castling.


[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.09.14"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Mephisto Rebel Mystery"]
[Black "Chafitz Steinitz encore 4 mhz"]
[ECO "D16"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bg4 6. Ne5
Bh5 7. Nxc4 h6 8. g3 Nbd7 9. Bg2 Nb6 10. Nxb6 axb6 11. d5
Qd7 12. Be3 Qc7 13. Rc1 c5 14. O-O Qe5 15. Qb3 Nd7 16. Bf4
Qf5 17. Nb5 Kd8 18. e4 Qg6 19. f3 Qf6 20. Rf2 g5 21. Bd2
Bg7 22. Bc3 Qg6 23. g4 Bxc3 24. gxh5 Qxh5 25. Nxc3 Kc7
26. h3 Ne5 27. d6+ exd6 28. Nb5+ Kb8 29. Qd5 Rd8 30. Nxd6
Nc6 31. Qxf7 Qxf7 32. Nxf7 Rf8 33. Nxh6 Rxa4 34. Ng4 Rf7
{An dieser Stelle will der weisse g1-e1 ziehen und
"rochieren". Turm zieht von c1 nach f1. Voila.
Superrochade. Scheint den Mystery überhaupt nicht zu
tangieren das der Turm schon gezogen hat und der König
auch, nämlich im 14. Zug eine Rochade !! Macht er einfach
noch eine :-)))} 35. e5 {Nachdem ich erneut alle Züge
eingegeben habe spielt Rebel Mystery nun diesen Zug.} Nd4
36. Kh2 Ra2 37. Nf6 Nc6 38. f4 gxf4 39. Bd5 Nxe5 40. Nh5
Rf8 41. Bxa2 Nd3 42. Rcf1 Nxf2 43. Rxf2 b5 44. Nxf4 c4
45. h4 Rd8 46. h5 Rd6 47. Kg3 Ra6 48. b3 Rc6 49. Rc2 cxb3
50. Bxb3 Ka7 51. Rxc6 bxc6 52. h6 c5 53. Bd5 Kb6 54. h7 c4
55. h8=Q Kc5 1-0
[/pgn]

when the bug happened i checked the Position with POS and everything
was identical.
I then resetted the machine, gave in the moves and let it compute again,
and the strange move did not appear again.

I know you will not believe me therefore i made pictures showing the
machine doing the super castling:summer tournament - Page 4 Img_2018
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptyWed Sep 15, 2021 10:08 pm

Mclane wrote:
[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.09.14"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Mephisto Rebel Mystery"]
[Black "Chafitz Steinitz encore 4 mhz"]
[ECO "D16"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. d4 Nf6 2. Nf3 d5 3. c4 c6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bg4 6. Ne5
Bh5 7. Nxc4 h6 8. g3 Nbd7 9. Bg2 Nb6 10. Nxb6 axb6 11. d5
Qd7 12. Be3 Qc7 13. Rc1 c5 14. O-O Qe5 15. Qb3 Nd7 16. Bf4
Qf5 17. Nb5 Kd8 18. e4 Qg6 19. f3 Qf6 20. Rf2 g5 21. Bd2
Bg7 22. Bc3 Qg6 23. g4 Bxc3 24. gxh5 Qxh5 25. Nxc3 Kc7
26. h3 Ne5 27. d6+ exd6 28. Nb5+ Kb8 29. Qd5 Rd8 30. Nxd6
Nc6 31. Qxf7 Qxf7 32. Nxf7 Rf8 33. Nxh6 Rxa4 34. Ng4 Rf7
{An dieser Stelle will der weisse g1-e1 ziehen und
"rochieren". Turm zieht von c1 nach f1. Voila.
Superrochade. Scheint den Mystery überhaupt nicht zu
tangieren das der Turm schon gezogen hat und der König
auch, nämlich im 14. Zug eine Rochade !! Macht er einfach
noch eine :-)))} 35. e5 {Nachdem ich erneut alle Züge
eingegeben habe spielt Rebel Mystery nun diesen Zug.} Nd4
36. Kh2 Ra2 37. Nf6 Nc6 38. f4 gxf4 39. Bd5 Nxe5 40. Nh5
Rf8 41. Bxa2 Nd3 42. Rcf1 Nxf2 43. Rxf2 b5 44. Nxf4 c4
45. h4 Rd8 46. h5 Rd6 47. Kg3 Ra6 48. b3 Rc6 49. Rc2 cxb3
50. Bxb3 Ka7 51. Rxc6 bxc6 52. h6 c5 53. Bd5 Kb6 54. h7 c4
55. h8=Q Kc5 1-0
[/pgn]


An impressive game by Rebel. I was especially impressed by 27. d6! I would NEVER have played that move! Ed deserves credit and kudos for writing the code that played that move! Cool

Of course, in a tournament, the game would have been awarded to the Steinitz computer at move 35.
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptySat Sep 18, 2021 6:06 pm

not nessesarily. Even in an official championship of ICCA/ICGA the operator
or programmer has the chance to see if everything is OK if an illegal move occurs.
He has the chance to input the moves again or input the position again
with a resettet machine and look what happens.
thats what i did. the glitch move came not again, so i continued the game.

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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptySat Sep 18, 2021 6:07 pm

in the next game between the dutch program running on a tasc final chess card and a fidelity computer,
the dutch program won:

[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.09.16"]
[Round "8"]
[White "TASC Final Chess Card"]
[Black "Fidelity Elite A/S Glasgow 5 mh"]
[ECO "B00"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 Nc6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. d5 Nb8 5. f3 exf3 6. Qxf3
Nf6 7. Bf4 c6 8. dxc6 Nxc6 9. Bb5 Qb6 10. h3 Bd7 11. O-O-O
e6 12. Qg3 Nh5 13. Qd3 Qd8 14. Be3 Ng3 15. Rh2 Nf5 16. Bf4
a6 17. Ba4 b5 18. Bb3 Nfd4 19. Nf3 Nxb3+ 20. axb3 f6 21. g4
e5 22. Rhd2 exf4 23. Qe4+ Be7 24. Rxd7 Qxd7 25. Rxd7 Kxd7
26. Nd5 Rad8 27. Nxf4 Bd6 28. Nd5 Ne5 29. Nd4 Ke8 30. Ne6
Rd7 31. Nb6 Ra7 32. Nc8 Kd7 33. Nxa7 Kxe6 34. Nc6 Bc5
35. b4 Be7 36. Nxe7 Kxe7 37. Qb7+ Nd7 38. Qxa6 Rb8 39. c3
g6 40. Qc6 Rb6 41. Qd5 Rb8 42. Kc2 Rb6 43. Qg8 Nf8 44. Qg7+
Ke8 45. b3 Re6 46. c4 bxc4 47. bxc4 f5 48. gxf5 gxf5
49. Qg5 Re4 50. Kc3 Re5 51. Qh6 Re7 52. Qf4 Rf7 53. c5 Ne6
54. Qe5 Ke7 55. b5 f4 56. b6 f3 57. b7 Rf8 58. b8=Q 1-0
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptySat Sep 18, 2021 7:32 pm

Mclane wrote:
in the next game between the dutch program running on a tasc final chess card and a fidelity computer,
the dutch program won:

[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.09.16"]
[Round "8"]
[White "TASC Final Chess Card"]
[Black "Fidelity Elite A/S Glasgow 5 mh"]
[ECO "B00"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 Nc6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 dxe4 4. d5 Nb8 5. f3 exf3 6. Qxf3
Nf6 7. Bf4 c6 8. dxc6 Nxc6 9. Bb5 Qb6 10. h3 Bd7 11. O-O-O
e6 12. Qg3 Nh5 13. Qd3 Qd8 14. Be3 Ng3 15. Rh2 Nf5 16. Bf4
a6 17. Ba4 b5 18. Bb3 Nfd4 19. Nf3 Nxb3+ 20. axb3 f6 21. g4
e5 22. Rhd2 exf4 23. Qe4+ Be7 24. Rxd7 Qxd7 25. Rxd7 Kxd7
26. Nd5 Rad8 27. Nxf4 Bd6 28. Nd5 Ne5 29. Nd4 Ke8 30. Ne6
Rd7 31. Nb6 Ra7 32. Nc8 Kd7 33. Nxa7 Kxe6 34. Nc6 Bc5
35. b4 Be7 36. Nxe7 Kxe7 37. Qb7+ Nd7 38. Qxa6 Rb8 39. c3
g6 40. Qc6 Rb6 41. Qd5 Rb8 42. Kc2 Rb6 43. Qg8 Nf8 44. Qg7+
Ke8 45. b3 Re6 46. c4 bxc4 47. bxc4 f5 48. gxf5 gxf5
49. Qg5 Re4 50. Kc3 Re5 51. Qh6 Re7 52. Qf4 Rf7 53. c5 Ne6
54. Qe5 Ke7 55. b5 f4 56. b6 f3 57. b7 Rf8 58. b8=Q 1-0
[/pgn]


With emphasis on gratitude to Mclane for running this FANTASTIC tournament, that was a bit disappointing: the Fidelity Elite seemed to just stand there and lose.
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptySat Sep 18, 2021 8:17 pm

I willin a few moments present my second tournament…. In a new thread.
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptyTue Sep 21, 2021 4:16 pm

2 more games have been played.

Colossus Chess4 loses against Tiger Grenadier

[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.09.19"]
[Round "8"]
[White "ColossusChess4 C64 5 mhz"]
[Black "Tiger Grenadier"]
[ECO "A00"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. Nc3 d5 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nxe4 {"} Bf5 4. d3 Nd7 {"} 5. Ng3
Bg6 6. Bg5 c6 7. Nf3 Qb6 8. b3 e5 9. Be2 Bb4+ 10. Bd2 Bxd2+
11. Qxd2 Ne7 12. O-O O-O 13. d4 exd4 14. Nxd4 c5 15. Nb5
Nf6 16. Bc4 Rad8 17. Qe1 Ned5 18. a4 Rfe8 19. Qc1 a6
20. Na3 Ne4 21. Nxe4 Bxe4 22. f3 Bg6 23. Re1 Qf6 24. Rxe8+
Rxe8 25. Bxd5 Qd4+ 26. Kf1 Qxd5 27. Qd1 Qg5 28. Qd7 Qe5
29. Rd1 b6 30. c3 Bf5 31. Qd6 Qxc3 32. Qd8 Qe3 33. Qd5 b5
34. axb5 axb5 35. g4 Bc8 36. Qd3 Qf4 37. Kg2 Bb7 38. h3 h5
39. Nxb5 h4 40. g5 Qg3+ 41. Kf1 Bxf3 42. Qxf3 Qxf3+ 43. Kg1
Qxd1+ {+M4} 44. Kg2 Qe1 0-1
[/pgn]


and
Mondial II loses against Mephisto MMII.

[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.09.20"]
[Round "8"]
[White "Mephisto Mondial II"]
[Black "Mephisto MMII HG240"]
[ECO "B85"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. Be2
a6 7. O-O Be7 8. Be3 {"} e5 {"} 9. Nf3 O-O 10. Nd5 Nxd5
11. Qxd5 Nc6 12. Rfd1 Bg4 13. c4 Rc8 14. h3 Be6 15. Qd2 a5
16. Rac1 a4 17. Kh2 Ra8 18. Ng5 Bd7 19. c5 Nd4 20. cxd6
Bxd6 21. Bc4 a3 22. bxa3 Rxa3 23. Bxf7+ Rxf7 24. Nxf7 Kxf7
25. Kg1 Ba4 26. Re1 Ne6 27. Qb2 Qe7 28. Rc4 g6 29. Rb1 Bc6
30. Qc2 Kg8 31. Kh1 Qh4 32. Qd2 Bc7 33. f3 Nf4 34. Bf2 Qg5
35. Bc5 Rd3 36. Qf2 Qd8 37. Rc2 Rd1+ 38. Rxd1 Qxd1+ 39. Kh2
Nd3 40. Qd2 Qxd2 41. Rxd2 Kf7 42. g3 Nxc5 43. h4 Ke7
44. Kh3 Bd7+ 45. Kg2 Na4 46. Kh2 Nc3 47. Rc2 Ba5 48. a3 Kd6
49. Rd2+ Kc6 50. Kg2 Bc8 51. Rb2 h5 52. Kh2 Kc5 53. Kg2 Kc4
54. Kg1 Nb5 55. Ra2 Kb3 56. Ra1 Bc3 57. Rb1+ Ka4 58. Kg2
Be6 59. Kh1 Ba2 60. Rc1 Kxa3 61. Kh2 Bc4 62. Kg2 Be2 63. f4
Kb2 64. Rg1 Bd3 65. fxe5 Bxe4+ 66. Kh3 Nc7 67. Rf1 Bf5+
68. Kh2 Kc2 69. Kg2 Be4+ 70. Kh3 Bxe5 71. Kh2 Nd5 72. Kh3
Bg2+ 73. Kxg2 Ne3+ 74. Kg1 Nxf1 75. Kxf1 b5 76. Kf2 b4 0-1
[/pgn]

with these 2 games the eight round is finished.



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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptyTue Sep 21, 2021 5:38 pm

Schachcompus

PlatzMotorPunkteNoClTiMeChGMFiScReCoMeExTAScS-B
01Novag Super-Constellation {Brettcomputer} 5,5/8· · 10 1 =11 0  1 20,50 
02Clock Chess 89 ZX Spectrum 10 mhz (300%) {Brettcomputer}5,5/8 · ·1 =  =0= 111 18,25 
03Tiger Grenadier {Brettcomputer} 5,0/800· ·  011 1 11  17,50 
04Mephisto MM2 HG240 {Brettcomputer} 5,0/81  · · 0 01=1 1= 17,00 
05Chafitz Steinitz encore {Brettcomputer} 5,0/8 =  · · 0 011=11 14,75 
06GM Petrosian Glasgow 25 mhz {Brettcomputer} 4,5/80 11 · ·00  1=1  17,00 
07Fidelity Elite A/S Glasgow 5mhz {Brettcomputer} 4,5/8  0 11· ·1 =0 01 16,75 
08SciSys Superstar 36K oc {Brettcomputer} 4,0/8=0=01 10· ·1      18,50 
09Rebell Mystery Modul {Brettcomputer} 3,5/801 01  0· · =1 0 15,00 
10Colossus Chess 4.0 C64 5mhz {Brettcomputer} 3,5/8 =0=0 =  · · 101 12,00 
11Mephisto Mondial II {Brettcomputer} 3,0/81  0001 = · ·0=  13,00 
12Excalibur Einstein Chess wizard {Brettcomputer} 3,0/8 00 ==  001· · 1 9,25 
13TASC Final Chess Card {Brettcomputer} 2,5/8 000001  1= · ·  9,50 
14Schneider Titan 16 mhz {Brettcomputer} 1,5/800 =0 0 10 0 · · 6,00 


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Beginn des Turniers: 2021.08.18, 14:37:29
Letzte Aktualisierung: 2021.08.18, 14:38:09
Ort/ Land: ORION8, Deutschland
Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
Hardware: Dual Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6300 @ 1.86GHz mit 1.016 MB Speicher
Betriebssystem: Microsoft Windows XP 64 Bit Professional Service Pack 2 (Build 3790)
PGN-Datei: Schachcompus.pgn
Tabelle erstellt mit: Arena 1.99beta4

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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptyTue Sep 21, 2021 9:52 pm

The next game in round 9 is fidelity elite A/S Glasgow 5 mhz vs. Excalibur Einstein chess wizard.
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptyWed Sep 22, 2021 12:17 am

Mclane wrote:
with these 2 games the eight round is finished.


For me, interesting similarities: in both games, white's position looked fine, or even good, but then white cracked under pressure against the king.

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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptyFri Sep 24, 2021 8:35 am

In this game between Fidelity programmer Ron Nelsons machine and Fidelity programmers Dan and Kathe Spracklens machine, the older programmer on made the game.


THe dedicated chess computer Excalibur Einstein chess wizard by Ron Nelson runs only on batteries.
2 migon or micro.
And it runs for ages now.

I guess it was mainly designed to run on small button batteries like
2032 or 2016 and by using bigger batteries like AAA or AA cells, it runs "forever" on them.


it has also no permanent brain and shuts down after a while, this helps a lot.

Or it has a solar cell arround the display.

or einstein has done anything other mysterious with the computer.

whatever.


the Fidelity machine opened with 1.f4.

maybe not the wisest decision. white had opening book until move 5.

[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.09.21"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Fidelity Elite A/S Glasgow 5 mh"]
[Black "Excalibur Einstein Chess Wizar"]
[ECO "A02"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. f4 e5 2. fxe5 d6 3. exd6 Bxd6 4. Nf3 g5 5. d4 {"} g4
6. Ng5 Qe7 {"} 7. Nc3 Nf6 8. Qd3 Bd7 9. Nge4 Nxe4 10. Nxe4
f5 11. Nxd6+ cxd6 12. Qb3 Be6 13. d5 Bc8 14. Qc3 O-O
15. Bf4 Nd7 16. O-O-O Nc5 17. e3 Ne4 18. Qa3 Bd7 19. Be2
Rf6 20. Rhf1 Qe8 21. Qb4 Rc8 22. Qxb7 Ba4 23. b3 Nc3
24. bxa4 Nxe2+ 25. Kd2 Nc3 26. Ra1 Nxa4 27. Qxa7 Nc3
28. Qd4 Qb5 29. Qd3 Qb2 30. Rfc1 Qb4 31. a3 Qa5 32. Qd4
Nxd5+ 33. Ke2 Re6 34. c4 Nxf4+ 35. Qxf4 Rce8 36. h4 Rxe3+
37. Qxe3 Rxe3+ 38. Kxe3 Qe5+ 39. Kf2 Qh2 40. Rab1 Qxh4+
41. Kf1 g3 42. Ke2 Qe4+ 43. Kf1 Qd3+ 44. Ke1 Qe3+ 45. Kd1
Qg1+ 46. Kc2 Qxg2+ 47. Kb3 f4 48. Rg1 Qb7+ 49. Kc3 Qf3+
50. Kb4 Kf7 51. Rgf1 Qe3 52. Rfd1 f3 53. Rxd6 g2 54. Rbd1
f2 55. Rd7+ Qe7+ 56. Rxe7+ Kxe7 57. Kc3 g1=Q 58. Rxg1
fxg1=Q 59. Kd3 0-1
[/pgn]

so this is a surprising result.



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The next game is between Schneider Titan 16 mhz with Kaare Danielsen 16 KB engine and TASC Final chess card 5 mhz by Marc Derksen.

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Mclane wrote:
The next game is between Schneider Titan 16 mhz with Kaare Danielsen 16 KB engine and TASC Final chess card 5 mhz by Marc Derksen.

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Take the screen out of that picture and you've got a wonderful gold and brown colour scheme! farao
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Yes the LED i use it not very bright.
I had 100 watt but it was so bright i could not see the LEDs of some older wooden dedicated machines.
So i thought, maybe a LED i can dimm. But that LED is dimmable but darker.
So i ordered a better one. Lets see if the next one his as bright as the 100 watt non dimmable.
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptyMon Sep 27, 2021 10:19 am

the game between Schneider Titan 16 mhz and TASC Final chess card ended with a win for

Kaare Danielsens program:

[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.09.23"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Schneider Titan 16 mhz"]
[Black "Final Chess Card 5 mhz"]
[ECO "A20"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. g3 d5 4. cxd5 Nxd5 5. Bg2 Nb6 6. e3
{"} Be7 {"} 7. Nge2 c5 8. f4 exf4 9. Nxf4 O-O 10. O-O Nc6
11. Bxc6 bxc6 12. Qf3 Bb7 13. Nfe2 Qd7 14. Qf5 Qxf5
15. Rxf5 Rad8 16. Ne4 Rd5 17. Rf4 Re5 18. Nf2 Nd5 19. Ra4
Ra8 20. Nd3 Rh5 21. Nef4 Rg5 22. Nf2 Re5 23. b3 Nxf4
24. Rxf4 Rd5 25. Ra4 Bf6 26. Rb1 Bc8 27. Bb2 Bd7 28. Bxf6
gxf6 29. Rc1 Kg7 30. Rc2 Be6 31. Ra6 Rad8 32. d3 Re5
33. Re2 Rd7 34. Rxc6 h6 35. e4 f5 36. Rc2 fxe4 37. dxe4 c4
38. bxc4 Ra5 39. Kg2 Rd4 40. Kf3 Ra4 41. Ng4 Rdxc4
42. R2xc4 Rxc4 43. Rxc4 Bxc4 44. a3 f6 45. Kf4 Bb5 46. Ne3
a5 47. Nf5+ Kg6 48. Ke3 Kg5 49. Kd4 Bc6 50. Ne7 Ba4 51. Nd5
Bb3 52. Ne3 Be6 53. h4+ Kh5 54. Kc3 Bd7 55. Kd2 Bb5 56. Kc2
Kg6 57. Kc3 Kh5 58. Kd4 Ba4 59. Kc4 Kg6 60. Kc5 Be8 61. Kd4
Bd7 62. Nd5 h5 63. Nf4+ Kh6 64. Nd3 Kg6 65. Nc5 Bc6 66. Ne6
Bb5 67. Nf4+ Kh6 68. Kd5 Ba4 69. Ke6 Bc6 70. Nd5 Kg7
71. Nxf6 Kg6 72. Nd5 Be8 73. Nf4+ Kh6 74. Kf6 Bd7 75. e5
Be8 76. e6 Kh7 77. e7 Kh6 78. Ne6 Bc6 79. Ng7 Bd7 80. e8=Q
Bxe8 81. Nxe8 Kh7 82. Ng7 Kh6 83. a4 Kh7 84. Nf5 Kg8
85. Ne7+ Kf8 86. g4 hxg4 87. h5 Ke8 88. h6 Kd7 89. h7 Kd6
90. h8=Q Kc5 91. Qh5+ Kb4 92. Qxg4+ Kc3 93. Nc6 Kd3
94. Qd4+ Ke2 95. Nxa5 Kf3 96. Nb3 1-0
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptySun Oct 10, 2021 11:47 am

to make the tournament more exciting as it is, so far, i put 2 new entries in it.

The Conchess Plymate Victoria and the Elektronika IM05.

You maybe know that the Mephisto MM II has the Ulf Rathsmann engine in it.
Before Rathsmann came to HG he produces his engines in the own brand CONCHESS.

there were either named after the championships , mhz speed or fantasy names.
I took an older module called Glasgow (1984) and let it renew and upgrade with a later version
by chessfriend berger. He took the old PCB by Steve UK and put new CPU , quarz and Eproms in it.
This way the Glasgow is now a plymate Victoria with 6.144 mhz as it has been played for conchess
in official tournaments.

By saying this we now have 2 Rathsmann engines in the tournament.
The MMII in original 3.7 mhz speed and the later Plymate Victoria with 6.144 mhz.

Another interesting item is the russian dedicated chess computer Elektronika IM05.

there were several models , a weaker IM01 and IM01T, and this IM05 is the third in this series.

https://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php?title=Elektronik_IM-05_(%D0%AD%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%B0_%D0%98%D0%9C-05)

it is said the machine has an engine by chess programmer Petrenko. But its not 100% for sure.


here are the first results:

[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.10.06"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Elektronika IM05"]
[Black "Excal.Einstein Chess Wizard"]
[ECO "C68"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Bxc6 dxc6 5. O-O Qd6 6. d3
Nf6 7. Nc3 {"} Bg4 8. Bg5 O-O-O 9. h3 Be6 10. b3 Kb8
11. Bxf6 gxf6 12. Ne2 Rg8 13. Ng3 Qd7 14. Qd2 Rg6 15. Nh4
Rg5 16. Qe3 Bb4 17. Nf3 Rg6 18. Rac1 Bf8 19. Ra1 Bh6
20. Qc5 Ka8 21. Nh4 Rgg8 22. Nhf5 Bd2 23. Ne7 Rh8 24. Ngf5
Rhe8 25. Rad1 Bf4 26. g3 Bh6 27. Nxc6 Qxc6 28. Qxc6 bxc6
29. Nxh6 Bxh3 30. Rfe1 Be6 31. f4 exf4 32. gxf4 Rf8 33. f5
Bc8 34. Rd2 Kb7 35. Rg2 Kb6 36. Rg7 Rd7 37. Rxh7 Kc5
38. Re3 Kd4 39. Rg3 Kc3 40. Rg2 c5 41. Ng4 Rd6 42. Ne3 Bb7
43. Nc4 Rc6 44. Rhg7 Bc8 45. Kh1 Rh8+ 46. Kg1 Rf8 47. Rh7
Bb7 48. Rhg7 Bc8 {Beide Geräte reklamieren Remis.} 1/2-1/2



[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.10.08"]
[Round "9"]
[White "Elektronika IM05"]
[Black "Chafitz Steinitz encore 4 mhz"]
[ECO "D28"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. e3 e6 5. Bxc4 c5 6. O-O
a6 7. Qe2 b5 8. Bd3 {"} Nc6 {"} 9. dxc5 Bxc5 10. Rd1 Bd7
11. a4 Nb4 12. Nc3 Nxd3 13. Qxd3 b4 14. Ne4 Nxe4 15. Qxe4
f5 16. Qe5 Qe7 17. Qc7 Rc8 18. Qb7 a5 19. b3 Bd6 20. Qa6
Bc7 21. Qd3 e5 22. e4 fxe4 23. Qxe4 Qe6 24. Rd3 Bc6 25. Qh4
e4 26. Nd4 Qd7 27. Rd2 O-O 28. Bb2 Bd5 29. Rad1 Bf4 30. Ne6
Qxe6 31. Rxd5 Rc2 32. Rd8 Bxh2+ 33. Qxh2 Rxb2 34. Rxf8+
Kxf8 35. Qc7 Qe7 36. Rd8+ Kf7 37. Rd7 Rb1+ 38. Kh2 Qxd7
39. Qxd7+ Kf6 40. Qd4+ Kf5 41. f3 Re1 42. Qxg7 exf3
43. Qxh7+ Kg5 44. Qc7 Kf6 45. Qf4+ Ke6 46. Qxf3 Re5 47. g4
Rc5 48. Qe3+ Re5 49. Qh6+ Kf7 50. Qf4+ Ke6 51. g5 Rc5
52. Qf6+ Kd7 53. Qf7+ Kd6 54. g6 1-0
[/pgn]

Today the next game is planned between Mephisto Mondial II (Frans Morsch) and Elektronika IM05.
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptySun Oct 10, 2021 11:59 am

and another interesting game.

Conchess Plymate Victoria against his older brother MMII :

[pgn]
[Event "40/120 sommertunier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.10.07"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Conchess Plymate Victoria 6.1"]
[Black "Mephisto MMII HG240"]
[ECO "D20"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]

1. d4 d5 2. c4 dxc4 3. Qa4+ {"} Nc6 {"} 4. e3 Bd7 5. Qxc4
Nf6 6. Qb3 Qc8 7. Nc3 e6 8. Bb5 a6 9. Be2 Bd6 10. Nf3 e5
11. dxe5 Nxe5 12. O-O Nxf3+ 13. Bxf3 c6 14. Qc4 O-O 15. Qh4
Be5 16. Rd1 Bg4 17. Be2 Bxc3 18. Bxg4 Qxg4 19. Qxg4 Nxg4
20. bxc3 Nf6 21. Ba3 Rfe8 22. Kf1 Rad8 23. Rd4 b5 24. Rad1
Rd5 25. h3 Ne4 26. Bb4 Nf6 27. g4 Ree5 28. Rxd5 cxd5
29. Ke2 g5 30. f3 Re8 31. a3 h6 32. Rd3 Kg7 33. Rd2 Kg6
34. Bd6 Re6 35. Bc5 Re8 36. Bb6 Nd7 37. Ba7 Ra8 38. Bd4 f6
39. f4 Kf7 40. Kd3 Ke6 41. h4 gxf4 42. exf4 Rg8 43. Rg2 Kd6
44. g5 fxg5 45. fxg5 hxg5 46. hxg5 Ne5+ 47. Kc2 Ng6 48. Rf2
Kd7 49. Rf7+ Ke8 50. Ra7 Nf4 51. Bf6 Nh3 52. Rxa6 Rg6
53. Ra8+ Kf7 54. Rb8 Nxg5 55. Bxg5 Rxg5 56. Rxb5 Ke6 57. a4
Rg2+ 58. Kb3 Kd6 59. a5 Kc6 60. Rb6+ Kc5 61. Rb4 Rg6
62. Rd4 Rg1 63. Ka2 Rg2+ 64. Ka3 Rg3 65. Kb3 Rg1 66. Rh4
Kb5 67. Rh5 Kxa5 68. Rxd5+ Kb6 69. Kc4 Rc1 70. Rd6+ Ka5
71. Rc6 Rc2 72. Kd5 Kb5 73. Rc7 Ka4 74. c4 Kb4 75. c5 Kb5
76. Rb7+ Ka6 77. c6 Rc3 78. Rb4 Ka5 79. Rc4 Rxc4 80. Kxc4
Kb6 81. Kd5 Kc7 82. Kc5 Kc8 83. Kb6 Kb8 84. Ka6 Kc7 85. Kb5
Kc8 86. Kc4 Kc7 87. Kd5 Kc8 88. Kd6 Kd8 89. Ke6 Kc7 90. Ke7
Kxc6 {Reklamation Remis wegen unzureichendem Matt
Material.} 1/2-1/2
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PostSubject: Re: summer tournament   summer tournament - Page 4 EmptySun Oct 10, 2021 12:53 pm

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Mclane wrote:
No he never gave it this name. The people bought it and wondered: what is this. Because it was a non labelled mm2 pcb.
But it played different and was obviously not a rathsmann program. So they gave it the name rebel mystery.

Later then it was clear that this was the module ed schroeder used in amateur group in amsterdam 1985.
At this time rebel was not so strong. Due to the fact that 4 KB were not enough.
So the later rebel5.0 module that came after the cologne championship 1986 had 8 KB Ram and also 5 mhz.

So the correct name is maybe rebel amsterdam.

You have that wrong, the REBEL Amsterdam 1985 version was never released, never made it to Munich. Frans played with his NONA. I believe he won the Amateur Group. At that time NONA was definitely stronger than REBEL.
NO.

They have it wrong.

It is as I told you.

Don't trust those the memories of people too much. There are other mistakes on those WIKI pages.

https://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php?title=Mephisto_Super_Mondial - Super Mondial is mine, not Frans.

https://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php?title=Mephisto_Monte_Carlo - Monte Carlo is mine, not Frans.
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Tibono wrote:
TheSelfImprover wrote:
why did even expensive 8-bit chess computers have so little RAM?
In the early 80's I expanded my TRS-80 RAM (from 16K to 48K) and I remember the RAM itself was MUCH expensive. Since, RAM price has dropped down several orders of magnitude!
Usual 8bits CPUs (such as Z80 and 6502) gather 2 x 8bits registers for addressing memory up to 64K addresses, so providing 4K chess computer was not a matter of limited technology - just a cost concern.
And worth pointing out, those chess programs were assembler (machine language) coded, which can be very compact, and enable handling data at bit level. So, game state can be stored in a few bits rather than bytes.

Sweet memories on the TRS-80. A friend of mine overclocked the 1.77Mhz to 3.55Mhz, second place of my first tournament the Dutch championship in 1982. The year before REBEL was refused to participate, too weak according the tournament director Very Happy

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In the game was a strange "bug". I was unable to reproduce it, but it seems
Rebel Mystery tried a SUPER castling.

THERE YOU GO Exclamation Exclamation

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An dieser Stelle will der weisse g1-e1 ziehen und "rochieren". Turm zieht von c1 nach f1. Voila. Superrochade. Scheint den Mystery überhaupt nicht zu tangieren das der Turm schon gezogen hat und der König auch, nämlich im 14. Zug eine Rochade !! Macht er einfach noch eine :-)))} 35

This is a known (and funny) Frans Morsch bug.
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Mclane wrote:
No he never gave it this name. The people bought it and wondered: what is this. Because it was a non labelled mm2 pcb.
But it played different and was obviously not a rathsmann program. So they gave it the name rebel mystery.

Later then it was clear that this was the module ed schroeder used in amateur group in amsterdam 1985.
At this time rebel was not so strong. Due to the fact that 4 KB were not enough.
So the later rebel5.0 module that came after the cologne championship 1986 had 8 KB Ram and also 5 mhz.

So the correct name is maybe rebel amsterdam.

You have that wrong, the REBEL Amsterdam 1985 version was never released, never made it to Munich. Frans played with his NONA. I believe he won the Amateur Group. At that time NONA was definitely stronger than REBEL.
NO.

They have it wrong.

It is as I told you.

Don't trust those the memories of people too much. There are other mistakes on those WIKI pages.

https://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php?title=Mephisto_Super_Mondial - Super Mondial is mine, not Frans.

https://www.schach-computer.info/wiki/index.php?title=Mephisto_Monte_Carlo - Monte Carlo is mine, not Frans.


There are 2 supermondials.
And 2 wooden monte carlos.

1 frans morsch
2 ed schroeder.

Supermondial I = frans morsch.
Supermondial II = ed schroeder.

And the wooden twins monte carlo and monte carlo IV.
So here wiki is definitely right. You shared the same hardware with frans and at that time the schröder version
was arround 80 elo stronger then frans‘ version on the same hardware platform.

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Mclane wrote:
In the game was a strange "bug". I was unable to reproduce it, but it seems
Rebel Mystery tried a SUPER castling.

THERE YOU GO Exclamation Exclamation

Quote :
An dieser Stelle will der weisse g1-e1 ziehen und "rochieren". Turm zieht von c1 nach f1. Voila. Superrochade. Scheint den Mystery überhaupt nicht zu tangieren das der Turm schon gezogen hat und der König auch, nämlich im 14. Zug eine Rochade !! Macht er einfach noch eine :-)))} 35

This is a known (and funny) Frans Morsch bug.

This module called  „rebel mystery“ or rebel Amsterdam was once sold by yourself when i remember it right.
It runs on the old Mephisto MM2 pcb with only 4 KB Ram.
So you now say this is not the engine you used championship in amsterdam
(Amateur Division) ?! But i can reproduce your games with it.

I am talking about THIS
Rebel Amsterdam
tournament and there is ed schroeder Amsterdam version ranked second.
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Is the Elektronika press sensory, or do you enter moves via the keyboard?
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The chessboard has no sensors. is like the steinitz a type in computer.
You maybe remember the mephisto I and II and III also had only buttons to type in coordinates.
But this has also many advantages.
You dont need to use pieces. You can use a chessboard or pieces of your own choice.


The commands are in russian language. So you first have to find out about how to operate it.
The manual i have is also in russian with these strange letters.
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here is the promised game between

Mondial II vs. IM05.

[pgn]

[Event "40/120 sommerturnier"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.10.10"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mephisto Mondial II"]
[Black "Elektronika IM05"]
[ECO "B00"]
[Result "1-0"]

1. e4 Nc6 2. f3 e5 {"} 3. Bc4 {"} Bc5 4. d3 Bxg1 5. Rxg1
Qh4+ 6. g3 Qxh2 7. Be3 d6 8. a4 Nf6 9. Nd2 Bh3 10. a5 a6
11. c3 O-O 12. d4 exd4 13. cxd4 Rae8 14. Qb3 Rb8 15. g4 b5
16. axb6 Rxb6 17. Qc3 Nb4 18. d5 c5 19. dxc6 Rxc6 20. Qxb4
Rfc8 21. Qa4 R8c7 22. Qb3 Rc8 23. Bxf7+ Kh8 24. Bc4 Nd7
25. Rc1 Nc5 26. Qc3 Na4 27. Qa3 Nc5 28. Rd1 Bg2 29. Bd5
R6c7 30. Bd4 Rf8 31. Bc4 Qg3+ 32. Bf2 Qh3 33. Be2 Qh2
34. e5 Bh3 35. exd6 Qxd6 36. Ne4 Nd3+ 37. Qxd3 Qb4+ 38. Qd2
Qxd2+ 39. Nxd2 Re8 40. Rg3 Rce7 41. Ne4 Bxg4 42. Rxg4 a5
43. Rg5 a4 44. Bc5 Re6 45. Rd7 Rg6 46. Rxg6 hxg6 47. Bd4
Rg8 48. Bc4 a3 49. Bxg8 Kxg8 50. Bxg7 axb2 51. Nf6# 1-0[/pgn]summer tournament - Page 4 Img_2024


the next game is between Rebell Mystery Modul and IM05.

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