„New beginning“ tournament
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : Round 3 begins.
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : here are 2 more games with the Millennium chess board:
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : and more games in this dark corona age bring light:
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Posts : Join date : Mclane wrote: and more games in this dark corona age bring light: Disappointed with Glasgow here. Yes - it was joint 1st at the WMCCC in 1984, and it would beat me easily, but a couple of moves there were a bit dodgy. The joys of 8-bit chess computers!
Quote : [pgn][Event "40/120 new beginning"] I thought the TASC played some nice chess there: seems to have been out-searched by the SPARC.
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : Another interesting game:
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : The next highlight is mchess pro8 3000 cycles vs. Mm4 hg440 on 20 mhz.
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : and here is the first game with the new machines:
[pgn]
[Event "40/120 new beginning"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.12.14"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Mephisto London 68000"]
[Black "Reflection Nigel Short 75 mhz"]
[ECO "D19"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
1. c4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. Nf3 Nf6 4. Nc3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 e6
7. Bxc4 Bb4 8. O-O O-O 9. Qe2 Nbd7 10. e4 Bg6 11. Bd3 Bh5
12. Bf4 Re8 13. e5 Nd5 14. Nxd5 exd5 {"} 15. Bf5 {"} Nf8
16. Qd3 Qb6 17. Rfd1 Ne6 18. Bxe6 Rxe6 19. Ng5 Bg6 20. Qb3
Re7 21. Bd2 Bxd2 22. Qxb6 axb6 23. Rxd2 f6 24. Nf3 Bh5
25. exf6 gxf6 26. Kf1 Re4 27. Ne1 Bg6 28. b3 Kf7 29. Rc1
Rae8 30. Nc2 R4e6 31. Ne3 Kg7 32. h3 Kh6 33. h4 Kh5 34. g3
Rxe3 35. fxe3 Rxe3 36. b4 Rxg3 37. b5 cxb5 38. axb5 Kxh4
39. Rc7 Rb3 40. Rh2+ Kg5 41. Rg2+ Kf5 42. Rf2+ Ke6 43. Re2+
Kd6 44. Rxb7 Rxb5 45. Rf2 f5 46. Kg2 Rb4 47. Rf4 Ke6
48. Kg3 Kf6 49. Rd7 Rb5 50. Kh4 Ke6 51. Rb7 Rb1 52. Kg5
Rg1+ 53. Kh6 Rh1+ 54. Kg7 Rb1 55. Rf2 Rb4 56. Rf4 Rb3
57. Ra7 Kd6 58. Ra8 Rd3 59. Rd8+ Kc6 60. Kf6 Rd2 61. Rh4
Rd1 62. Rf4 1/2-1/2
[/pgn]
although the material is unbalanced, the position is draw and no side makes progress. so adjudication Draw.
I have attached Pictures how the Phoenix Reflection machine looks like.
In the big display you see emulated buttons. You can either input the buttons via the cursor keys or with the big press sensory display. Therefore i use a pencil.
It fits in any munich, modular or exclusive chess board made by mephisto / saitek.
Here it is the exclusive board with magnetic sensors.
Mclane
Posts : Join date : Age : Location : here is the game between the limited Edition 8 mhz of eds Monte Carlo IV versus Kaplans Corona D+ with 75 mhz:
TheSelfImprover
Posts : Join date : Mclane wrote: here is the game between the limited Edition 8 mhz 75 mhz Those CPU clock speeds look imbalanced to me!
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : Another game has happened. The Reflection Corona D+ by Julio Kaplan, running with 75 mhz had to fight against
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Posts : Join date : Mclane wrote: Another game has happened. The Reflection Corona D+ by Julio Kaplan, running with 75 mhz had to fight against Looks to me as though Corona was seeing a little further ahead.
Sorry to hear that Ron Nelson is unwell: mild case of... Corona virus?
Mclane
Posts : Join date : Age : Location : Another game with the new Reflection engines...
TheSelfImprover
Posts : Join date : Mclane wrote: Another game with the new Reflection engines... Nigel Short likes pinning pieces against the King!
Using the reflection software, is it not possible to give both engines the same clock speed?
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : The elegance was hardware, reflection is emulations
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Posts : Join date : Mclane wrote: The elegance was hardware, reflection is emulations Can the clock speed be set in the emulation?
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : No but i can set the Mips of the cpu doing the emulation. But you would have to measure how fast the mhz is when you change the Mips.
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : Merry Christmas my computerchess friends,
Mclane
Posts : Join date : Age : Location : the game Clockchess versus Colossus Chess was very easily won by Martin Bryants Colossus Chess 4 on C64. Another game between Gandalf 2.1 on 3000 cycles was against the Reflection CXG Sphinx with 132 mhz instead of 8 mhz.
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Posts : Join date : Mclane wrote: [pgn] That was poor play by ClockChess.
Quote : The next game we will see is the Reflection Nigel Short with 75 mhz (ed Schröder engine) versus Chris Whittingtons Chess System Tal DOS (v93 engine that was used in Paderborn tournament against genius). I hope Chris can redeem himself in that game!
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : There was of course plenty of software development between the z80a version of clockchess for zx spectrum homecomputer and the PC Dos Version of chess system tal, although running at 3000 cycles only (we never tested cstal on such a slow hardware).
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : I am not having birthday yet, but this game is really a masterpiece:
[pgn]
[Event "40/120 new beginning"]
[Site "SCW"]
[Date "2021.12.27"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Reflection Nigel Short 75 mhz"]
[Black "ChessSystemTal DOS 3000 cyl"]
[ECO "E12"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e6 3. Nf3 b6 4. a3 Bb7 5. Nc3 d5 6. cxd5
Nxd5 7. Qc2 Nxc3 8. Qxc3 h6 9. b4 Nd7 {"} 10. Bb2 Be7
11. Rc1 a5 12. bxa5 Rxa5 13. Qxc7 Qa8 14. Nd2 Bd8 15. Qc2
Bg5 16. f3 O-O 17. e4 Rc8 18. Qd1 Rxc1 19. Bxc1 Bc6 20. Bd3
e5 21. d5 Ba4 22. Qe2 Nc5 23. Bc4 b5 24. Bd3 Nxd3+ 25. Qxd3
Qc8 26. Bb2 Bc2 27. Qe2 Qc5 28. g3 Rxa3 29. Bxa3 Qxa3
30. Nf1 Bd3 31. Qd1 f5 32. h4 Be7 33. exf5 Bb4+ 34. Kf2
Qb2+ 35. Nd2 Bxd2 36. Rh2 Bf4+ 37. Kg1 Qd4+ 38. Kg2 Be3
39. f6 gxf6 40. Qe1 e4 41. f4 b4 42. Kh1 Kf7 43. h5 b3
44. f5 Bc2 45. d6 Bd1 46. Rg2 Bf3 47. Kh2 Bxg2 48. Qa5 Qxd6
49. Qb5 Qd2 50. Qxb3+ Ke7 51. Qe6+ Kd8 52. Qxf6+ Kc7
53. Qe7+ Kb6 54. Qe6+ Ka5 55. Qe5+ Ka6 56. Qa1+ Kb5
57. Qe5+ Bc5 58. Qe8+ Kb4 59. Qb8+ Kc3 60. Qe5+ Kc4
61. Qe6+ Kb4 62. Qd7 {- Matt in 6} Qf2 63. Qb7+ {- Matt in
4} Kc3 64. Qg7+ Kc2 65. Qb2+ Kxb2 66. g4 Bf1+ 67. Kh1 Qg2#
0-1
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That gives the following inbetween table:
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Platz Motor Punkte Ch Sa Fi Mi Mc Re Re Co Sa No Ch TA GM Me Fi Re Ni Me Mi Ti Ga Me Ex Ch Cl Fi S-B 01 ChessSystemTal DOS 3000 cycles 3,0/4 · 1 = = 1 5,25 02 Saitek Renaissance Sparc {Brettcomputer} 3,0/3 · 1 1 1 3,00 03 Fidelity Kishon Chesster 8 mhz {Brettcomputer} 2,5/3 · 1 = 1 3,50 04 Millennium Exclusive The King Element 10 mhz {Brettcomputer} 2,5/3 · = 1 1 3,25 05 Mchess8Pro 3000 cycles 2,5/3 · = 1 1 3,00 06 Reflection Corona D+ 75 mhz {Brettcomputer} 2,5/3 · = 1 1 2,25 07 Reflection Nigel Short 75 mhz {Brettcomputer} 2,5/4 0 · = 1 1 1,75 08 Colossus Chess 4 C64 48 mhz {Brettcomputer} 2,5/4 0 · = 1 1 1,00 09 Saitek Renaissance Brute Force Modul {Brettcomputer} 2,0/3 = · = 1 3,25 09 Novag Constellation Expert 100 mhz {Brettcomputer} 2,0/3 = = · 1 3,25 11 Chafitz ARB Sargon4 130 mhz 2,0/3 = = · 1 2,75 12 TASC Chessmachine 16mhz Rebel 2.31 {Brettcomputer} 2,0/3 0 · 1 1 1,50 13 GM Petrosian Glasgow 25 mhz {Brettcomputer} 2,0/3 · 0 1 1 0,50 14 Mephisto London 68000 {Brettcomputer} 1,5/4 = = = 0 · 4,00 15 Fidelity Avantgarde v9 {Brettcomputer} 1,5/3 0 = · 1 2,25 16 Reflection Sphinx40 132 mhz 1,5/4 · 0 0 1 = 1,25 17 Nimzo 2.2.1 3000 cycles 1,0/3 0 1 · 0 2,00 18 Mephisto MM4 HG440 20mhz {Brettcomputer} 1,0/3 0 0 1 · 1,50 18 Millennium Exclusive Chess Genius 50 mhz 1,0/3 0 0 1 · 1,50 20 Tiger Grenadier {Brettcomputer} 1,0/3 0 0 · 1 1,00 20 Gandalf 2.1 3000 cycles 1,0/4 0 0 0 1 · 1,00 22 Mephisto Monte Carlo IV L.E. 8 mhz {Brettcomputer} 1,0/3 0 0 · 1 0,00 23 Excalibur Grandmaster 32 mhz {Brettcomputer} 0,5/3 0 0 = · 0,75 24 ChessTiger 11.2 DOS 3000 cycles {Brettcomputer} 0,0/3 0 0 0 · 0,00 24 ClockChess89 ZX Spectrum 28 mhz {Brettcomputer} 0,0/3 0 0 0 · 0,00 24 Fidelity Elegance 8 mhz {Brettcomputer} 0,0/3 0 0 0 · 0,00
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Spielstufe: Turnier 40/120 20/60
Hardware: Betriebssystem: PGN-Datei: New beginning.pgn Tabelle erstellt mit: Arena 3.5
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Posts : Join date : Age : Location : There are things you cannot find out via search. Either you know it or you drive into the abyss.
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Posts : Join date : Mclane wrote: There are things you cannot find out via search. Either you know it or you drive into the abyss. Over two decades on, I can still remember Ed saying:
"I'm taking knowledge out [of the evaluation function]" . His point being that deeper search made most of the knowledge redundant, because the search would uncover it anyway.
At the time, he didn't know that in the late 2010s, we would discover that having a large amount of knowledge is more valuable than a deep search.
IMO, Chris is guilty as well: he believed that the route to success was getting better at hand-coding knowledge - but from today's perspective, it looks as though this was never going to work: it seems as though NNs confer some "mystery knowledge" (chess patterns that most chess players, with the possible exception of very strong ones, simply aren't aware of, and which are important).
To be fair though, none of us predicted the NN revolution in the game!
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